Better player : Bumrah or Headley ?

[Coronis]

I read your point in the other thread and while I rate Headley significantly high; it is equivalent of saying Marshall won't improve Pakistan significantly.

Good analogy tbh.

 

[Silver Silva]

When faced with two world class players I'll pick the one I watched , the magnificent Bumrah

 

[Migara]

I read your point in the other thread and while I rate Headley significantly high; it is equivalent of saying Marshall won't improve Pakistan significantly.

Marshall will improve any attack, quite significantly.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

When faced with two world class players I'll pick the one I watched , the magnificent Bumrah

Yes, Zak Crawley >>> Jack Hobbs

 

[capt_Luffy]

Marshall will improve any attack, quite significantly.

Yes, so will do Tendulkar.

 

[Migara]

Yes, so will do Tendulkar.

Not to the same extent, even one and half Tendulkar's are playing. (1 bowler is equivalent to 1.5 batsmen)

 

[capt_Luffy]

Not to the same extent, even one and half Tendulkar's are playing. (1 bowler is equivalent to 1.5 batsmen)

Again depends team by team. But I actually agree, getting Marshall for a single match improves more teams more than Tendulkar.
Oh, and that 1 bowler 1.5 batsman is some bull****

 

[Silver Silva]

Yes, Zak Crawley >>> Jack Hobbs

World class being the operative word

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

World class being the operative word

No lie detected

 

[honestbharani]

Again depends team by team. But I actually agree, getting Marshall for a single match improves more teams more than Tendulkar.
Oh, and that 1 bowler 1.5 batsman is some bull****

I guess he is basing it on 6 batsmen and 4 bowler lineups that most teams play generally.

World class being the operative word

SCC is just being needlessly snippy there.

 

[kyear2]

I read your point in the other thread and while I rate Headley significantly high; it is equivalent of saying Marshall won't improve Pakistan significantly.

This is over Waqar?

If your comp for Waqar is similar to Headley, then we're on different pages.

 

[capt_Luffy]

This is over Waqar?

If your comp for Waqar is similar to Headley, then we're on different pages.

I rate Headley higher than Waqar, quite much actually, but it's not a comparison in which I would shred hair if someone says otherwise.

 

[Coronis]

I rate Headley higher than Waqar, quite much actually, but it's not a comparison in which I would shred hair if someone says otherwise.

You shouldn’t be shredding hair at all unless you’ve been properly trained.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

In our recent polls Headley was ranked the no 12 batter, while Bumrah was the no 30 bowler which was perhaps a bit high. I'm surprised that Bumrah has so many votes.

Headley was about Gavaskar level. Do some voters seriously think Bumrah = Gavaskar?

 

[kyear2]

In our recent polls Headley was ranked the no 12 batter, while Bumrah was the no 30 bowler which was perhaps a bit high. I'm surprised that Bumrah has so many votes.

Headley was about Gavaskar level. Do some voters seriously think Bumrah = Gavaskar?

There are people trying to make a point.

 

[smash84]

I rate bumrah on impact though. He's had an outsized impact in the short career he's had and really made a huge difference in making India a good traveling team.

 

[smash84]

And the fact that bowlers are more valuable

 

[Coronis]

I rate bumrah on impact though. He's had an outsized impact in the short career he's had and really made a huge difference in making India a good traveling team.

I’d say Headley had a much bigger impact on the 30’s Windies than Bumrah has had on current India.

 

[smash84]

I’d say Headley had a much bigger impact on the 30’s Windies than Bumrah has had on current India.

I am thinking of impact in terms of helping teams win series.

It's Possible, I am not super aware of the series in the 1930s. Did Headley help WI win in Australia or England?

 

[Coronis]

I am thinking of impact in terms of helping teams win series.

It's Possible, I am not super aware of the series in the 1930s. Did Headley help WI win in Australia or England?

They had 5 series in the 30’s, losing 3, drawing 1 and winning 1 (at home against England) they won 4 tests in total - 3 at home and 1 in Australia.

Headley in those 4 tests:
114 and 112 vs England 1930
105 and 30 vs Australia 1931
25 and 93 vs England 1935
270* vs England 1935

In the only match he didn’t nab a ton, 93 was the highest score of the entire game. In the ‘35 series he was one of only 2 players from both teams to make a ton the entire series, and outscored his closest competitors by over 200 runs. (in fact, that one innings of 270 was the same amount of runs as the second highest scorer in the series)