Flintoff??? I'm pretty sure MacGill should be in there somewhere too.LongHopCassidy said:And to complement them, the Homely XI:
1. Marvan Atapattu
2. Mark Richardson (that face he makes when he's running)
3. Robert Key
4. Aravinda de Silva
5. Arjuna Ranatunga (skipper)
6. Andrew Flintoff
7. Adam Gilchrist (keeper)
8. Ray Illingworth
9. Merv Hughes
10. Pat Symcox
11. Alec Bedser
You'd have Muralitharan ahead of Hadlee in the batting order?:PSJS said:For one dayers.
1.Tendulkar
2. Gilchrist
3. Bradman
4. Richards
5. Lara
6. Sobers
7. Keith Miller or Botham
8. Wasim Akram or Imran or McGrath
9. Shaun Pollock or Holding or Marshall
10. Muralitharan
11. Joel Garner or Richard Hadlee
Its because my first choice was Garner a great limited over bowler. Clearly if Hadlee played I would put him not just above murali but above Pollock and Akram as well. In some situations though I may send akram first.Voltman said:You'd have Muralitharan ahead of Hadlee in the batting order?:P
Or is he just there because Garner would bat below Muralitharan?
I know. Lots of others think the same. Personal choice I suppose.LongHopCassidy said:Chappell? CHAPPELL? That man's face would stop a clock, beard or not.
Sorry SJS, just personal taste.
My Handsome XI, in batting order:
1. Graham Gooch
2. Rick McCosker (pre-Centenary Test)
3. Rahul Dravid
4. Ted Dexter
5. Hansie Cronje (captain)
6. Keith Miller
7. Imran Khan
8. Alan Knott (keeper)
9. Wasim Akram
10. Jeff Thomson
11. Shoaib Akhtar
He's technically flawed tbh.. Rubbish in the corridorMr Mxyzptlk said:So basically god's not good enough at cricket for your liking?![]()
Bapu Rao Swami said:Post WWII:
Tests -
Sunil Gavaskar|Gordon Greenidge|Donald Bradman|Vivian Richards|Sachin Tendulkar|Garfield Sobers|Ian Healy|Glenn Mcgrath|Dennis Lillee|Shane Warne
ODIs -
Sachin Tendulkar|Gordon Greenidge|Vivian Richards|Dean Jones|Adam Gilchrist|Michael Bevan|Waseem Akram|Richard Hadlee|Joel Garner|Shaun Pollock|Muralitharan
ps. Talking of Greenidge, I think he would have been a huge asset to England in the 80s had he not decided to play for WI. Come to think of it,Allan Donald very nearly became an England player in 1991.
Actually he has 12. Bradman and Sobers count for two eachhonestbharani said:You only have 10 guys in your test team.
The problem is almost no keepers in Test cricket are all that good looking.SJS said:I know. Lots of others think the same. Personal choice I suppose.
BTW, Alan Knott ?? and handsome ??
I find Knott and Thommo the ones I have a disagreement with in your selection other wise its really good.
Les Ames was not bad. There must be a picture somewhereLongHopCassidy said:The problem is almost no keepers in Test cricket are all that good looking.
Wally Grout perhaps? Or Geraint Jones?
In lieu of Thommo, who would you have sharing the new ball?
sorry but, you`re rating guys?? please no!SJS said:How about a Handsome XI :-
I had no problem with the first three. Imran Khan and Fazal Mehmood were both as good looking as the best loking film stars. Ted Dexter was handsome elegance personified. The others are a personal choice. Havent fixed them in a batting order yet. Will do so on discovering a god spinner or twoand a keeper. At the moment Les Ames is the only keeper in mind.
Suggestions please ?
- Imran Khan
- Fazal Mehmood
- Ted Dexter
- Keith Miller
- Rick McCosker
- Norman Oniell
- Bob Cowper
- Colin Bland
- Graham Gooch (post beard)
- Greg Chappell (post beard)
- Dennis Lillee
- Viv Richards
PS How could I forget him ..India's Salim Durrani. in the same category as the top three.
Well, look who's insecure about their ***uality.Nnanden said:sorry but, you`re rating guys?? please no!![]()
SJS said:I think so. I will tell you why.
You know there is a big debate not just on this forum but amongst many cricket enthusiasts whether Bevan (or someone like him) is a greater one day batsman than say Viv Richards or Tendulkar. The two sides are really arguing whether you need to be a great stroke player or a cricketer who makes the most (he can) of EACH AND EVERY delivery he plays and therefore score fast enough (without being rash at any time) and consistently.
I have never participated in such debates because for me it is as point less a debate as saying whether some one who can reverse swing when the ball is older(but cant swing when its new) is a better bowler than another who can swing it only when it is new. The answer is simple really. The best is one who can do both.
Reverse swing is a latter day phenomenon brought in by the great Pakistani bowlers of the 80's and 90's. But I am sure the great swing bowlers of the past would have learnt this new trick and ADDED it to their armooury and become even a bigger problem for the batsmen.
I feel, what Bevan showed to the cricketing world was that someone who could not score fast because he did not have the great and powerful strokes of a Richards, Lara, Tendulkar, could still do a good job by scoring off as many deliveries as possible and by perfecting the art of running between wickets. Now, Bevan did not have the strokes of Tendulkar and Lara, but Tendulkar and Lara do have enough dot balls to score more off that they do not utilise as well as Bevan did. I am astonished that they have not incorporated Bevan's philosophy into their play and further increased their strike rates which would surely have made them more effective one day players.
It is not a question of either this style or that. For those blessed with the big shots , it should be a combination.
Now what has this to do with Bradman in one day cricket ??
I think of all the cricketers in the history of the game, Bradman best synthesised the big shots of a Lara and a Richards (without lofting in the air) with the great running between the wickets and percentage cricket of a Bevan. I have no doubt that he would have scored at strike rates in three figures comfortably, without resorting to rash batting or hitting in the air as often as is done by batsmen today.
Bevan, if after he had become the star limited over player that he was, had suddenly woken up one day and found that he posessed the big shots of Richards, believe me his strike rate would have sored beyond 100 and his average beyond 70. He was just limited by his strokes but had the genius to show to the world how to perform INSPITE of it. Bradman had no such handicap !
I hope he breaks his future 25 duck run with a huge hundred against india! (*mumble*...damn pitch...*mumble*)honestbharani said:Excellent post. Only saw this now. And like Sudeep said, I think Freddie has been the ideal ODI batter, this season. I just hope he carries on in the same way, except against India.![]()
I am lostNnanden said:sorry but, you`re rating guys?? please no!![]()