Your all-time Test XI

[V Reddy]

He must have dropped some easy catches in the Ashes as some members don't rate him much as a keeper.

I'm not saying he is one of the greats but i haven't seen him drop that many. He must have dropped some easy catches in the matches which i didn't see.

 

[luckyeddie]

It's not just catching - stumpings, byes and the like. Gilchrist's ok as a keeper, don't get me wrong, in the same way that Stewart's ok as a keeper. OK, not great.

In selecting a World XI (presumably to play against another team of great players from elsewhere in the space=time continuum), you have to bear in mind that someone like Bradman or Ytgphlquajjix from Aldebaran might offer one chance, a difficult leg-side stumping, early in their innings. Miss it and it costs you 200 runs.

 

[V Reddy]

It's not just catching - stumpings, byes and the like. Gilchrist's ok as a keeper, don't get me wrong, in the same way that Stewart's ok as a keeper. OK, not great.

In selecting a World XI (presumably to play against another team of great players from elsewhere in the space=time continuum), you have to bear in mind that someone like Bradman or Ytgphlquajjix from Aldebaran might offer one chance, a difficult leg-side stumping, early in their innings. Miss it and it costs you 200 runs.

Oh Now i understand. Thanks for explaining.

 

[V Reddy]

If that is the case though then Patel might make it too after a few years. His keeping was top class in NZ. He took some great catches in NZ. I think he is a great keeper but not so sure about his batting.

 

[marc71178]

Gilly is vastly underated as a keeper he is not perfect but it's very hard when he is so bloody tall.

Of all the excuses, this one is up there as one of the more stupid ones.

By the way, Tatenda Taibu is vastly under-rated as a fast bowler as it's so hard when he's so short.

 

[Langeveldt]

Okay, here goes!


1.L Hutton
2.S Tendulkar
3.D Bradman
4.B Richards
5.A Border
6.S Waugh (cpt)
7.A Gilchrist (reasons have been said above)
8.G Sobers
9.S Warne
10.M Marshall
11.D Lillee

12. Allan Anthony Donald

 

[marc71178]

Hmm, SRT opening in an all time Test XI...

 

[luckyeddie]

Not only that, the greatest left-hander the world has ever seen gets to bat at 8. The man who made 365* just squeezes in to the line-up ahead of Warne?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Not only that, the greatest left-hander the world has ever seen gets to bat at 8. The man who made 365* just squeezes in to the line-up ahead of Warne?

Yeh that's just wrong to bat Sobers at 8 below Gilchrist, Waugh and Border.

 

[Craig]

I would think that Weekes would have to be there. What about George Headley?

In my opinion, the greatest ever Wi batsmen. Played in the same era as Don Bradman and scored 10 Test 100s at an average of 60, with a highest score of 270*, he scored a Test century on debut and scored centuries in each innings on a few occasions at Lords as well. His son played for WI and his grand son Dean played for England.

Weekes, Worrall, and Walcott were unlucky to make as is Lara who is the best batsman I have ever seen.

 

[hourn]

I think the impression people have got from Gilly's keeping has come purely from what he has done in the recent Ashes tour, where he's keeping was the worst it's ever been.

Aside from that series, he's never been poor at all, and is as good as a keeper as anyone else. Perhaps not in the level as Rod Marsh, Ian Healy, but not as far from them as people are suggesting.

And in actual fact Gilly would get very close to making the team purely as a batsmen.

And JR - very interesting team to say the least. You'd want more bowlers though, because you need 20 wickets to win a test.

 

[Craig]

The only good thing about Healy was his keeping, he wasnt the greatest batsman.

 

[Eclipse]

Of all the excuses, this one is up there as one of the more stupid ones.

By the way, Tatenda Taibu is vastly under-rated as a fast bowler as it's so hard when he's so short.

No you just dont know much about Wicket keeping.

Funny how Rod Marsh blasted Gilly a few years ago saying he would never be a great keeper because he was to tall.

It makes it hard to stay down and get down quickly if you are to tall.

I have heard many past keepers Including Ian Healy, Ian Smith, Rod Marsh and a few more say that taller players usualy dont make good keepers.

It's also no coincedence that most of the good keepers have always been short and that most of the current good keepers around are not tall.

My comment was not stupid but yours was poorly informed and working on an assumption.

 

[marc71178]

Yeh that's just wrong to bat Sobers at 8 below Gilchrist, Waugh and Border.

Bracketing him with those 3 is an insult to his name, and to the rest of World Cricket IMO.

An All Time Team.

 

[marc71178]

And in actual fact Gilly would get very close to making the team purely as a batsmen.

And Pigs might Fly.

If he was a specialist Batsman, he wouldn't come in at 7 and be able to play so aggressively.

 

[age_master]

gilchrist averages 60 and has a SR of 80 and the way that he bats, i would go very close to playing him as a specialist batsman

 

[luckyeddie]

gilchrist averages 60 and has a SR of 80 and the way that he bats, i would go very close to playing him as a specialist batsman

but then you would have no wicket-keeper in the side

 

[marc71178]

gilchrist averages 60 and has a SR of 80 and the way that he bats, i would go very close to playing him as a specialist batsman

But without the keeping to fall back on, would he bat like that.

For a start he wouldn't be coming in at 7 against bowlers demoralised from the top 6.

 

[Bazza]

Same old debate about Gilchrist as a specialist batsman.....

On a more relevant (to this thread) topic, surely people can't compare Gilchrsit to the likes of Healy or Russell (the best keeper I've seen).

 

[Langeveldt]

Same old debate about Gilchrist as a specialist batsman.....

On a more relevant (to this thread) topic, surely people can't compare Gilchrsit to the likes of Healy or Russell (the best keeper I've seen).

I was tempted to put russell in the world XI... He is the greatest keeper of this era, and probably will not be surpassed...