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Young players who failed to realise their potential

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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
shortpitched713 said:
A few hacks in there, tbh.

And Afridi had a full and pretty successful LO career, although maybe not quite of the nature people would have expected.
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Afridi failed to deliver on his talent IMO. That record ton earlier in his career ruined him. He had the potential to be a more successful cricketer.
 
Silver Silva

Silver Silva

International Regular
subshakerz said:
Afridi failed to deliver on his talent IMO. That record ton earlier in his career ruined him. He had the potential to be a more successful cricketer.
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Disagree , Shahid Afridi had a very long career , he was always going to do it his way which was all or nothing with his batting, T20 only became a serious format in his mid 20's when he was already an established player in Pakistan so you can't even say that format influenced him, in fact T20 probably elevated his aggressive style of play and made him a more valuable player , much like Chris Gayle.
 
Chin Music

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
Starfighter said:
No, people were always leery about how slowly he bowled and the selectors have generally preferred options that seemed less risky if if they weren't taking as many wickets. The fact he can't bat - which is the primary selection criterion for an English spinner - or field very well is also important. I don't think all but a few seriously thought he'd be first choice.

Another English Matt - Fisher - is well down this road though, thanks to incurring a bewildering array of injuries.
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My recollection of Fisher is that he looked like a serious talent a few years ago, but he was yet another low side of fast-medium straight up and down bowler when he got to play in the Windies. That was alongside the likes of Woakes and Craig Overton, for two, who are really not good selections when not bowling on seamer friendly English surfaces.
 
Chin Music

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
Silver Silva said:
Disagree , Shahid Afridi had a very long career , he was always going to do it his way which was all or nothing with his batting, T20 only became a serious format in his mid 20's when he was already an established player in Pakistan so you can't even say that format influenced him, in fact T20 probably elevated his aggressive style of play and made him a more valuable player , much like Chris Gayle.
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I actually thought he was more valuable as a bowler as time went along. It was just an advantage that his slugging would sometimes come off.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Silver Silva said:
Disagree , Shahid Afridi had a very long career , he was always going to do it his way which was all or nothing with his batting, T20 only became a serious format in his mid 20's when he was already an established player in Pakistan so you can't even say that format influenced him, in fact T20 probably elevated his aggressive style of play and made him a more valuable player , much like Chris Gayle.
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Him scoring that fluke record ton early in his career convinced him to just bat that way and never restrain himself. The few times he did restrain himself, he looked a lot better.

I don't think his overall numbers did justice to his talent. Not saying he was going to be worldclass but I think a 30 plus ODI average was well within his grasp and at least more than a wicket a match.
 
wpdavid

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
NotMcKenzie said:
Brian Close
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There's any number of Yorkshire batsmen who were touted as the next big thing but didn't really justify the tag. Hampshire made a hundred on test debut but never did much afterwards. Phil Sharp a few years begore him. Athey and Love in the early 80s (although Athey did have a few moments in the mid-80s). Moxon, Metcalf and Blakey all scored heavily at domestic level but never made the step up. More recently Lyth and, arguably, Lees. I've probably forgotten a few.
 
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Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
Starfighter said:
No, people were always leery about how slowly he bowled and the selectors have generally preferred options that seemed less risky if if they weren't taking as many wickets. The fact he can't bat - which is the primary selection criterion for an English spinner - or field very well is also important. I don't think all but a few seriously thought he'd be first choice.

Another English Matt - Fisher - is well down this road though, thanks to incurring a bewildering array of injuries.
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In tests yes, but I thought he'd be an option to replace Adil Rashid in limited overs. Instead after that fluke test debut when Leach bashed his head in the field, he's not only slipped out of international consideration but seen his county career fall apart. He was bowling well for Lancashire that spring but by the end of the summer I think he was already being loaned out.
 
SillyCowCorner1

SillyCowCorner1

Moooo
number11 said:
Sarwan should have averaged 50. Everyone thought he would. Looked a magic player.

On the topic, lots of young guys fail to meet their potential.

Mark Ramprakash comes to mind.
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Sarwan first lost his form…and then picked up weight and then his fitness waned. He was not the same player after that.
 
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