Would BazBall have worked against McWarne in the 2000s?

[Socerer 01]

For Bazball to be successful, there is no place for players like Dravid/Kallis/Bell in the middle order of a Test team . It will work only when you have 4 to 5 aggressive batsman . So either Dravid/Kallis open the batting and neutralize the new ball threat or they should come at 7 in case Bazball falls .

there is no place for a batsman like Dravid or Kallis in such an approach. Lees who was the previous opener and got dropped was a slower batsman and even he was asked to bat aggressively in the summer. Dravid would have adapted to playing more aggressively and we all know what Kallis would have done

 

[trundler]

there is no place for a batsman like Dravid or Kallis in such an approach. Lees who was the previous opener and got dropped was a slower batsman and even he was asked to bat aggressively in the summer. Dravid would have adapted to playing more aggressively and we all know what Kallis would have done

Gotten spooked by the pre match conference and thrown his wicket to McGrath?

 

[Son Of Coco]

Remember when he came back a few years after his retirement in an exhibition game and figured out, and owned, peak David Warner in about 3 balls

The one where he said what he was going to try to do to him, and then did it?

That was awesome. It's also why anyone who said he "bored a batsman out" was ****ing clueless.

 

[subshakerz]

there is no place for a batsman like Dravid or Kallis in such an approach. Lees who was the previous opener and got dropped was a slower batsman and even he was asked to bat aggressively in the summer. Dravid would have adapted to playing more aggressively and we all know what Kallis would have done

Kallis of late career could accelerate.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I think this is one of those questions which becomes clearer if you look at it from another angle.

Q: Could McWarne of the 00s stop Bazball?
A: Until proven otherwise, our assumption is that nothing can stop Bazball.

 

[Spark]

Kallis of late career could accelerate.

Being able to accelerate isn't helpful if it only happens after you've been in 100 balls in this approach.

 

[Shady Slim]

*looks at the thread title*
ah, finally, a thread which asks some general question that can't be derailed by talk of kalli-

 

[Adorable Asshole]

*looks at the thread title*
ah, finally, a thread which asks some general question that can't be derailed by talk of kalli-

Because Kallis can't play bazball

 

[Line and Length]

This so called "Bazball" requires 3 conditions to succeed.
1. Relatively flat wickets.
2. Mediocre attack and/or
3. Complacency by the bowling side in believing they can't lose.

There is no way that McWarne would have provided either 2 or 3.

 

[Burgey]

Remember when he came back a few years after his retirement in an exhibition game and figured out, and owned, peak David Warner in about 3 balls

 

[jcas0167]

I would love to have seen Graeme Hick, Nick Knight and Alex Stewart in the 90's being given license to play Bazball style.

 

[Migara]

Current England batsmen won't survive this mode against good bowling. They won't last against McWarne, won't last on Indian dustbowls or last much against Murali - Vaas combo or Steyn and co as well. They were flogging an inexperienced bowling lineup with collective experience less than 30 matches.

 

[Victor Ian]

warne calls his wicket of baz himself here.

hard to have success against mcwarne

 

[Red]

McGrath and Warne are the greatest bowling combo ever

 

[honestbharani]

*looks at the thread title*
ah, finally, a thread which asks some general question that can't be derailed by talk of kalli-

Back in the day, PEWS tried to make Kallisball a thing here at CW. He is just J now that Bazball has actually become a thing across cricket.

 

[TheJediBrah]

McGrath and Warne are the greatest bowling combo ever

Really makes you realise how much better these ATG level bowlers are, not just physically but they are actual geniuses

 

[Migara]

Even KP's technique was dissected by Murali after the initial shock and KP never hit the former glory against Murali. Once he was gone KP tonked an attack - containing a Rangana Herath, who was respectable on SL tracks - like he was playing under 19s. ATG bowlers do make a difference.

 

[Adders]

McGrath and Warne are the greatest bowling combo ever

I'm thinking the Windies have put 4 on the park at times that were arguably better. It's certainly debatable.

 

[anthonyalba]

i definitely rate bazball (whatever that actually is) against gillespie.
i dont think gillespie was ever good enough to play test cricket.
i could never understand how he kept getting selected.

i can see it rattling mcgrath- he got visibly upset when hit for a boundary and relied on batters waiting for rare bad balls to score.
it wouldve rocked his world.

Warne on the other hand didnt mind getting smacked, knowing he'd get the wicket sooner rather than later.

i think bazball has been blow out of proportion.
Afterall its just one guy having good form.

it shouldve been called bairstowball

 

[TheJediBrah]

Do you mean Mark Gillespie?