capt_Luffy
International Coach
Stop torturing stats, Hazlewood is not even comparable to Bumrah in ODIs. He unironically is closer to Agarkar than Bumrah.
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World XI of players who debuted in 21st century (01 Jan 2000 or later)
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Thala_0710
State Captain
Although Hazlewood is more of a wicket taker, Bumrah's performance is a bit better imo, especially in the period both bowlers have played. Bumrah bowls primarily the toughest overs in the pp and death and still manages a better economy, although Hazlewood has the better avg and WPM.
Anyway, Bond and Shami are better though than Hazlewood. Both have 2 of the greatest WC records ever and are the 2 greatest strike bowlers in ODI history (alongside Starc and Waqar).
Also what is this away filter in ODIs? This is not test cricket.
Well bumrah averages 30+ against top teams in away condition, 32+ in ICC tournaments against top teams and Around 37/38 in ICC knockouts With 5+ economy.
He is not that good in ODIs as the people of this sub are rating him.
Hazlewood also has similar economy.
And only Hazlewood raw stats looks bad but overall both are pretty close.
Bumrah didn't have to Bowl against India (the best batting team of this era), which has 3 ATG batsman ( Kohli, rohit, dhoni) and many great ODI batsman like Dhawan, klr , iyer.
And bumrah didn't faced great batsman like sangakara, baz , abd (only few matches) .
capt_Luffy
International Coach
You are right for once that the difference between them isn't the same as their raw stats, it's way bigger. Comparing Hazlewood and Bumrah in ODIs is some deep Reddit ****.
Thala_0710
State Captain
He has played a total of 4 icc kos against the teams you are mentioning. Like wtf is this sample size, surely you can't be serious lol.
Hazlewood also played only 5-6 icc ODIs knockouts and yet he helped aus to win 15 and 23 WC with 3.8 economy.
In 15 semi , he took the most important opening wicket of Shikhar Dhawan and even after so many catches dropped during his bowling, most of the ind batters struggled against him.
Hazlewood 23 semi spell is laterally the best knockout spell in last 15-20 years.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Hazlewood isn't clearly better than Cummins or Gillespie lol.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Yk after 2023 Final I heard that some people in Twitter argued that Travis Head was better than Virat Kohli and AB de Villiers....... I know get what kind of people they were.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Idiots who use twitter?
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Nope. Idiots who stuck with X
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
I use astronomical year numbering.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
I'd put Bond, Bumrah, Lee, Bracken, Boult, Malinga, Shami, and Henry all ahead of Hazlewood
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Matt Henry in 2019 was better
Thala_0710
State Captain
Mohammad Shami in 2023
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Agree
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Better than those two imo, but well behind Bracken and Lee.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
I will put them around the same bracket.
