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will Anderson move into the test squad?
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luckyeddie
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Totally agree. Why the obsession with younger players? Yes, let's throw away all the experience in the side. Do you know the only thing that gives you?marc71178 said:
A valid excuse for losing.
Should be good enough for the ECB?
Mr Mxyzptlk
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I'm shocked by what I am seeing. Hussain is a fine player. and a great captain. Also, he's a pretty good fielder. Does it just take one bad series for an English player to be beheaded? England isn't the only team who missed out in the World Cup. Other talented teams such as Pakistan, West Indies did too. The there's the South Africans who are a very good team. The WC was disappointing...now get over it.
England are an improving side and, like the WI, they won't get everything right at once. It's not their time yet, but they are getting there. Don't go and make rash comments about dropping players because of one bad game. Yes, think about it...England only really played one bad game in the WC and it cost them. They were the only team to challenge Australia and were quite right not to go to Zimbabwe.
All I have to say to some people on the forum is "Grow Up!"
England are an improving side and, like the WI, they won't get everything right at once. It's not their time yet, but they are getting there. Don't go and make rash comments about dropping players because of one bad game. Yes, think about it...England only really played one bad game in the WC and it cost them. They were the only team to challenge Australia and were quite right not to go to Zimbabwe.
All I have to say to some people on the forum is "Grow Up!"
Comin into the 2008 season, Giles will be 35. I really dont see what the point of keeping a very average spinner in the team till such an age.
You'd be much better developing someone he is younger, so that maybe they can develop into something.
If Giles was a great spinner, than yes, you'd want to keep him in the team as long as you can, but he is just a doorknob bowler - nothing special.
You'd be much better developing someone he is younger, so that maybe they can develop into something.
If Giles was a great spinner, than yes, you'd want to keep him in the team as long as you can, but he is just a doorknob bowler - nothing special.
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That's a big "maybe". Look at it this way, Giles is the best spinner in County Cricket right now and consequentially, England's best spin option. Until someone appears magically in CC who looks like they can develop into something special (useful even!) then why drop Giles.hourn said:
Whilst looking to the future, England would hope to win a match or two. You can't just shove someone in there and hope that he develops, because development in cricket must start at a level below International.
In other words, what I'm saying is that Giles may not be a Murali, but he's the best England have right now and as such, he warrants selection as England's spinner.
Rik
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Yes and I've heard of spinners playing well past 35 and still performing just as well. Giles may not be the best spinner in the world but he's taken wickets against every nation he's faced and he does the job his side needs. Why drop him if he's doing nothing wrong? He keeps the runs down and takes useful wicketshourn said:
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Nasser said he was retiring as ODI captain ....vishnureddy said:
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And from ODI cricket as a whole.
Bazza
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Hourn I know it's hard for you to understand when you've had Warne all these years, with MacGill as backup, and now when you need him Hogg has emerged.
The thing is England don't have any world-class spinners right now. I am personally still a fan of Robert Croft but wouldn't necessarily say he is any better than Giles, who does a job for us right now.
Blackwell has talent, and I wouldn't mind if England gave him a few chances, but would be surprised if they did. Dawson looks appaling right now and has alot of work to do if he wants to turn himself into something. Other than that there are not alot of young spinners putting their hands up I'm afraid. A couple of names spring to mind but we'll have to wait and see if they do anything in CC first.
Our best option right now is to go with Giles, do our best to develop him and then maybe in 2-3 years someone will come along with alot of talent and he will force his way in. If not, we are stuck with Giles but he's the best we've got so there's nothing we can do about it.
The thing is England don't have any world-class spinners right now. I am personally still a fan of Robert Croft but wouldn't necessarily say he is any better than Giles, who does a job for us right now.
Blackwell has talent, and I wouldn't mind if England gave him a few chances, but would be surprised if they did. Dawson looks appaling right now and has alot of work to do if he wants to turn himself into something. Other than that there are not alot of young spinners putting their hands up I'm afraid. A couple of names spring to mind but we'll have to wait and see if they do anything in CC first.
Our best option right now is to go with Giles, do our best to develop him and then maybe in 2-3 years someone will come along with alot of talent and he will force his way in. If not, we are stuck with Giles but he's the best we've got so there's nothing we can do about it.