Wicketkeeper for 1986-2006 World XI

[Matt79]

You have Gilchrist in so he can come in a 6 and allow you to have an extra bowler (remembering wickets win matches, not runs), or so he can come in at 7, allowing you to get away with having Flintoff at 6 in an all time eleven.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

You have Gilchrist in so he can come in a 6 and allow you to have an extra bowler (remembering wickets win matches, not runs), or so he can come in at 7, allowing you to get away with having Flintoff at 6 in an all time eleven.

Flintoff in an All Time XI???????????????

 

[Matt79]

Flintoff in an All Time XI???????????????

Sorry, I mis-spoke.

I meant to say "In a Best of 1986-2006 XI"

 

[Anil]

You have Gilchrist in so he can come in a 6 and allow you to have an extra bowler (remembering wickets win matches, not runs), or so he can come in at 7, allowing you to get away with having Flintoff at 6 in an all time eleven.

we are talking about a 20 year xi, not sure flintoff deserves to get into that...forget an all-time xi...as for gilchrist, i have explained my reasons time and again....you find reasons for him to be included as a specialist batsman in the middle order, i might understand that because that's what has essentially kept him in the international arena, but an all-time xi by definition should have the best of everything and that means it should have the best specialist wicket keeper possible...and that is most definitely not gilchrist whichever way you try to explain that....

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Sorry, I mis-spoke.

I meant to say "In a Best of 1986-2006 XI"

Flintoff is good but don't u think Imran Khan was better in 5-6 years of cricket that he played after 1985-86?

 

[Matt79]

I don't really give a stuff either way about Flintoff. Imran is almost certainly better - Flintoff's name simply came to my mind first. This is besides my point however, which was that you select a wicket-keeper batsman rather than a pure wicket-keeper, especially when its Adam Gilchrist, because he allows you to have five bowling options without the team's aggregate batting strength suffering the way it would if Adam Parore or Ian Healy was selected.

 

[Matt79]

we are talking about a 20 year xi, not sure flintoff deserves to get into that...forget an all-time xi...as for gilchrist, i have explained my reasons time and again....you find reasons for him to be included as a specialist batsman in the middle order, i might understand that because that's what has essentially kept him in the international arena, but an all-time xi by definition should have the best of everything and that means it should have the best specialist wicket keeper possible...and that is most definitely not gilchrist whichever way you try to explain that....

We're selecting an XI, which means you need a set of players who best compliment each other. Its a different question to "who's the best wicket-keeper of all time", and as such what Gilchrist brings to the team besides his v. good (admittedly not phenomenal) keeping justifies his selection.

 

[pug]

Andy Flower for me. Still recall how impossible it used to be for India to get rid of him. And his keeping was of top quality too.

 

[adharcric]

Andy Flower for me. Still recall how impossible it used to be for India to get rid of him. And his keeping was of top quality too.

We never had any problems with Gilly, eh?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Gilly by so far. We should teasure him while he's still playing because we won't see his like again.

He's also a far better keeper than people seem to wish to give him credit for; certainly far better than Sanga, Flower or even Stewart who're his only serious rivals when competancy with the willow is taken into the equation.

 

[Jono]

Gilly for me.

 

[pug]

We never had any problems with Gilly, eh?

Comparing both Gilchrist and Flower against India, in India, and overall.

Gilchrist:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 Ct St

7 342 122 28.50 2 0 29 0
14 659 122 29.95 2 2 48 2

Andy Flower:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 Ct St

5 820 232* 117.14 3 4 5 1
9 1138 232* 94.83 3 7 18 1

 

[adharcric]

Comparing both Gilchrist and Flower against India, in India, and overall.

Gilchrist:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 Ct St

7 342 122 28.50 2 0 29 0
14 659 122 29.95 2 2 48 2

Andy Flower:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 Ct St

5 820 232* 117.14 3 4 5 1
9 1138 232* 94.83 3 7 18 1

My bad. Whenever I think of Gilly, I think of the ODI version. Still, Gilly's my pick.

 

[aussie tragic]

Comparing both Gilchrist and Flower against India, in India, and overall.

Gilchrist:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 Ct St

7 342 122 28.50 2 0 29 0
14 659 122 29.95 2 2 48 2

Andy Flower:
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 Ct St

5 820 232* 117.14 3 4 5 1
9 1138 232* 94.83 3 7 18 1

Thanks for proving Gilly is a better keeper as his dismissal rate is almost double Flowers

Of course, that could have something to do with the McWarne combo

 

[pug]

My bad. Whenever I think of Gilly, I think of the ODI version. Still, Gilly's my pick.

Yeah, his batting does have a lingering effect.

 

[pug]

Of course, that could have something to do with the McWarne combo

More like, almost everything. He's a dependable keeper but having bowlers highly adept at inducing edges helps a lot as well.

 

[Armadillo]

If you're talking about specialist keepers, look no further than Rashid Latif. He's as good as they came in the keeping department. Although I didn't vote for him because Gilchrist is clearly the best wicket keeper batsman since 1986.

 

[The Baconator]

Who on earth has voted for Jones?

 

[aussie tragic]

Who on earth has voted for Jones?

4 votes for Jones...... that again places him as the 3rd best keeper over the last 20-years.

I thought Russell was supposed to be the best English keeper during the period and he has a better batting record than Jones so what are we missing????

Of course, I'm sure they're wind-up votes as Gilchrist has already got it locked in

 

[R_D]

Gilchrist for me.