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Why were Waqar Younis & Azhar Mahmood punished?

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Sorry HB but I'm going to follow SJS's advice, show restraint, and not re-enter the debate. It all started getting a bit personal and unconstructive (and it seems to be continuing in that vein).

Maybe we will debate the matter again when it next flares up. Until then, I beg respectfully to differ with you. :)
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Extremely healthy as we have clear skies and the rays of FACTS fall directly upon us and not lost in the clouds of bias and defensiveness. :p
Oh, sweet irony.

Jono has been pretty much the only one arguing the double-standards case in a respectful manner, the rest has been nothing short of disgraceful.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that is a tad unfair to bleat on about double standards over two incidents that occurred a decade apart? I mean it will have been separate people making those decisions, and in all honesty the fact that one occurred before Ovalgate and one after has to be taken into account doesn't it? As that has changed the way ball tampering will be approached forever as far as I can see.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Oh, sweet irony.

Jono has been pretty much the only one arguing the double-standards case in a respectful manner, the rest has been nothing short of disgraceful.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that is a tad unfair to bleat on about double standards over two incidents that occurred a decade apart? I mean it will have been separate people making those decisions, and in all honesty the fact that one occurred before Ovalgate and one after has to be taken into account doesn't it? As that has changed the way ball tampering will be approached forever as far as I can see.
No... I don't think it is fair to punish a guy for something that is not considered an offence just because some idiot punished someone else for the same some years back..


But the problem here is that there are obvious double standards and until and unless we see the same leeway being given to the players outside Australia, England and RSA, we cannot cut out the double standards argument.


Zaremba, you are a quality poster and so are GIMH and Matt and Burgey and I have no real intention to be disrespectful to you guys but there are quite a few others here and my attacks were more directed at them.. But even you guys have gotta be able to see the obvious fact that as long as the players from Australia, England and RSA get treated differently, it will always be seen as further evidence of the double standards that exist.


My gripe here is Vaughan's original comment. Would this have been let go had it been Akhtar or Asif ????
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I blame Chris Broad for all this...
Explains why it has been raining in Chennai in January, tbh.. Something I haven't seen so far in my lifetime.. First Bret Hart comes back to WWE and now Burgey actually blames Chris Broad for something.. :p
 
My gripe here is Vaughan's original comment. Would this have been let go had it been Akhtar or Asif ????

The ICC are a funny lot HB, take Asif for instance do you think if Warne was caught smuggling drugs into another country he would have been let off completely. No Australian player would have played cricket again if they did that but Asif has escaped any punishment for it.
 

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Oh, sweet irony.

Jono has been pretty much the only one arguing the double-standards case in a respectful manner, the rest has been nothing short of disgraceful.

Am I unreasonable in thinking that is a tad unfair to bleat on about double standards over two incidents that occurred a decade apart? I mean it will have been separate people making those decisions, and in all honesty the fact that one occurred before Ovalgate and one after has to be taken into account doesn't it? As that has changed the way ball tampering will be approached forever as far as I can see.
Hahaha and by different people! Double standards are when the same person treats the same situation differently depending on who was involved, not when two different people make two different decisions in two different (albeit similar) situations ten years apart!
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
I can't understand why a Sri Lankan match referee would have a pro-white bias.

And with respect to Vaughan, I really don't like the way he's been on TMS and in the press. Prefer Nasser's brand of grumpy by 100x.
 

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Vaughan really does come off as a prick in retirement, much moreso than he ever did when he played.
 

honestbharani

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Hahaha and by different people! Double standards are when the same person treats the same situation differently depending on who was involved, not when two different people make two different decisions in two different (albeit similar) situations ten years apart!
yeah, BASED ON THE SAME RULES!!! Or are those different too?
 

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