Why Don’t I care more?

[Langeveldt]

What has Trott done to be unliked?

 

[sledger]

What has Trott done to be unliked?

I don't know really, I just remember when I first saw him playing for Warwickshire about 4-5 years ago I just took an instant dislike to him, I think it had something to do with the fact that he had a very arrogant look to him and something inside me just...didn't like what I saw I guess. Otherwise very little, so I guess it's just an instinctual thing.

 

[oitoitoi]

Don't know anything about trott the man, flintoff and kp are hardly bland, swann always seems fairly amusing post match. However the likes of Bell, Cook, Anderson, Onions, Harmison, even Strauss...very forgettable personalities indeed, at least in the public eye.

 

[zaremba]

Don't know anything about trott the man, flintoff and kp are hardly bland, swann always seems fairly amusing post match. However the likes of Bell, Cook, Anderson, Onions, Harmison, even Strauss...very forgettable personalities indeed, at least in the public eye.

The point is, when we make comparisons with the past, we forget the "forgettable personalities" of the past and remember the memorable ones.

Anyhow we have a smattering of characters, and the remainder are forgettable but basically good guys: not a bad combination for me.

 

[sledger]

The point is, when we make comparisons with the past, we forget the "forgettable personalities" of the past and remember the memorable ones.

Anyhow we have a smattering of characters, and the remainder are forgettable but basically good guys: not a bad combination for me.

Indeed, in fact I think this is integral to a successful team in many regards, however, when the said smattering of characters is absent, it does become hard to get behind the team with any conviction.

 

[slippyslip]

You can only have so many personalities in a team - or you'll end up being an NBA basketball team.

I quite like Stuart Broad ... kinda like a panto villain.

Personality is also used to cover up deficiencies or low standards of play. Theres not much personality in men's tennis but the standard is currently so high I dont care.

 

[Richard]

To be honest I don't think this is something that would be exclusive to England or the current side though, I'm sure any follower of any team could say this sort of thing at some stage.

England teams in my time of watching have generally had lengthy spells of putting down too many catches and short bursts of taking pretty much everything.

In fairness though, the last time I can remember too many catches going down for England was in Sri Lanka in 2007/08, which is quite a while back now. It reflects well, I think, on Richard Halsall that the catching has been so generally good in that time, and reflects diabolically on the fact that it took until 2007 to appoint a specialist fielding coach. I can't remember such a sustained period of, relatively speaking, excellence in the field from an England side. There isn't much I look at with pride in the current England team, but catching is certainly something I do. Bad catching can turn a middle-of-the-road side in terms of bowling and batting - which England are - into a dreadful one.

 

[Richard]

The point is, when we make comparisons with the past, we forget the "forgettable personalities" of the past and remember the memorable ones.

Yeah, I mean, who remembers... umm...

 

[GIMH]

What has Trott done to be unliked?

Thought you'd dislike him tbh

 

[stumpski]

Yeah, I mean, who remembers... umm...

Tim Robinson?

 

[Richard]

Well I for sure don't, because he was dropped for the last time when I was about 2. I'm trying to think of someone who played, with decent regularity, between 1992 and 1997, who I don't remember very well (I remember everyone from 1998 onwards with considerable clarity - including Steve James and Aftab Habib whose decent-player-who-got-virtually-no-real-chance story is possibly the most nondescript type of all - far less lending to recall than Chris "hopeless waste of space" Adams or Darren "quite obviously never remotely Test-class" Maddy).

And in all honesty, I'm struggling. Which might say that, like Mr Chandler, I've done so much reading-up and re-watching of stuff from that time that I've familiarised myself with it as if I was watching with post-1998 attentiveness. Or it might just say that there were an abundance of great characters at the time.............

 

[zaremba]

You are blessed by unusual powers of recall, though, Richard, so I don't think that your experience is representative. In any case I very much doubt you're of the "where have all the characters gone?" mindset.

 

[Richard]

You're right on both counts. TBH, I'm just being a bit facetious.

That's not to say that I don't enjoy a player with a bit of character. But I also warm hugely to "nondescript nice guys" like Strauss, because, frankly, that's how I think of myself.

 

[stumpski]

Yeah, dunno why I picked on Robbo there - a lovely guy and a good umpire I'm sure - I was just trying to think of an England player from the not-too-distant past who seemed to be a bit short of personality. That England side of 1985 had the cabal of Botham-Lamb-Gower, the late-nighters, Sgt Major Gooch, Phil and Mrs Edmonds, renowned hypochondriac Les Taylor, Jonathan 'Aggers' Agnew and lardarse in waiting Mike Gatting, leaving only Robinson, Downton and Emburey in the mild brigade. But that's just my recollection.

 

[ripper868]

What has Trott done to be unliked?

He's a foreginer isn't he? thought the English were against foreigners coming in and taking their jobs, stands to reason he'd be disliked.

 

[Langeveldt]

Just sounds like another Pietersen for mine..

 

[Uppercut]

Just sounds like another Pietersen for mine..

Trott to hit 98 out of a team total of 267 with no other English batsman making 50, get out dragged on playing a cut shot, and somehow come in for more criticism than everyone else for "throwing his wicket away".

 

[Richard]

He's a foreginer isn't he? thought the English were against foreigners coming in and taking their jobs, stands to reason he'd be disliked.

Yeah, that cheeksy devil Hingeh, waltzing in and putting our photographers out of business.

 

[Langeveldt]

Yeah, that cheeksy devil Hingeh, waltzing in and putting our photographers out of business.

But I left? You guys owe me.. I could have been good at cricket as well

 

[Pothas]

Trott to hit 98 out of a team total of 267 with no other English batsman making 50, get out dragged on playing a cut shot, and somehow come in for more criticism than everyone else for "throwing his wicket away".

Not far off what is going t happen with Ian Bell after this innings.