Richard
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Indeed. It's so predictable it's blatantly obvious I'm becoming obsessed!
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Why do you enjoy seeing England's cricket team get beaten ?
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Richard
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It's more obvious to me that there are a load of players who are crap at it, TBH.
If you really think Tim Bresnan and co would be any better if they took it seriously, well...
Mr Mxyzptlk
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I was referring to England cricket on the whole when I said they don't take it seriously. Not just the players selected.
Richard
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IMO a section of the supporters are the only ones that don't take it seriously. Anyone in the ECB who realises what's at stake clearly does; any player who seriously tells you he doesn't care when he pulls on the blue jersey needs to be chucked out of the game for good; and there are a good few fans (me, for an example) who don't take terribly kindly to the repeated selection of utterly rubbish players (like Tim Bresnan) for ODIs, which should tell you that we care just a tidgy midgy bit.
I hate this "England doesn't care about ODIs" stereotype, I really do. It's not quite as bad as the "West Indians smoke weed" stuff, granted, but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from.
I hate this "England doesn't care about ODIs" stereotype, I really do. It's not quite as bad as the "West Indians smoke weed" stuff, granted, but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from.
vic_orthdox
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Yet you openly state that you couldn't care about the result of an ODI that isn't in the WC.Richard said:
Mr Mxyzptlk
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The system of English cricket so clearly does not focus on ODI cricket in any regard. Test cricket is the main goal of success as far as England is concerned. This, especially under Duncan Fletcher. Success in ODI cricket is a bonus.
Langeveldt
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At the moment they have a thoroughly miserable, uncharismatic coach and aren't playing a particularly interesting breed of cricket at the moment.. Their selection policy is horrific too.. I hope they prosper in test matches, but I don't think they deserve any success in the One Day format, they don't take it seriously enough
Richard
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Test cricket is the more important of the two - and rightly so in the minds of near enough everyone. Probably in the minds of near enough every single fan on this board, too, regardless of nationality.
However, I'll say it again - everyone at ECB realises how important ODIs are to the general scheme of things. As for Duncan Fletcher - this is the man who specifically (and more than once) called for more ODIs and less Tests. It's easy to get the impression that someone willing to pick Tim Bresnan doesn't care. But it's certainly not true. You just need to read some of the stuff he's said. Even after the Ashes victory, he was still talking about how excited he was about the development of the ODI team (which was promptly ruined by 4 or 5 injuries). The notion that DF does not take ODIs seriously is an unfair one.
speirz
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It's just I always disliked Atherton, Stewart, Hussain, Gough etc whereas in other countries like South Africa (Rhodes), Pakistan (M.Ahmed), India (A.Kumble) I could always find a player I found exciting and liked to watch.
Pup Clarke
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Real don't have any "starts" left do they apart from Casillas and Van Nistlerooy.
speirz
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Some players like Thorpe and Croft I liked, just not to the same extent as others from different countries. Mainly though i've developed more of a dislike for the current team after the 2005 Ashes, after I heard many claims of England being the best in the world etc after one series (opinion based on a different forum).
speirz
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Roberto Carlos, Raul, Robinho, Reyes, Cannavaro etc
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Opinion based on pretty brainless conjecture - and it's a shame you'd come to dislike the entire team based on some less-well-educated people's patently misinformed views.