Athlai
Not Terrible
Ah it's that 'Footage Not Found' thing from Arrested Development.
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Who's going to win?
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Bonnie Prince C
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I want England to win but have to back Australia. I believe it will be far closer than 07 but could well see Australia winning 2-1 or 2-0. England are still trying to fit their team tobether and work out who is best where and such like. While the Australian side does have a few changes to it I would say they are a far more settled side and I think that will give them the edge.
superkingdave
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5-0 given good weather imo. Just can't see England bowling Australia out twice in any match and the batting will crumble at least once a test. Can see England losing one after declaring in the first innings though
Richard
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My first thought was
but I see there's already Precambrian suspicions.
Telling that it has definite signs of a d00plicate.
But certainly Precamb seems more likely than SW\BLE.
age_master
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That bet is pretty safe based not on the ability of the English cricket team but English whether.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Twice. Warwick Armstrong in 1921 and just recently.
The worst scoreline in England is 4-0: the Invincibles and '89 (a six-Test series)
Richard
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Worth remembering that the '89 four-nil would almost certainly have been six-nil but for rain. And this too in one of the driest, sunniest summers on record in the UK.
I was also pretty sure that the return series to (either before or after) the BaggyGreenWash was also a 4-0 TBH, but it's most unlike Haakon to get factual details wrong, so I presume I'm recalling incorrectly.
One interesting thing is has there ever been an Ashes in England of five or six Tests where there were no drawn matches? (There was also a four-Test one in 1975 of course but I know beyond doubt there were three draws there, although one was caused by the pitch being vandalised).
I was also pretty sure that the return series to (either before or after) the BaggyGreenWash was also a 4-0 TBH, but it's most unlike Haakon to get factual details wrong, so I presume I'm recalling incorrectly.
One interesting thing is has there ever been an Ashes in England of five or six Tests where there were no drawn matches? (There was also a four-Test one in 1975 of course but I know beyond doubt there were three draws there, although one was caused by the pitch being vandalised).
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Nup, 3-0 in 90/91. Draw at Sydney (despite e e hemmings and the Cat bowling 78 of 89 overs and taking 8 between them) to take the Ashes by the Third Test, then a draw in Adelaide to seal the won series.
2001. All thanks to Butcher & Gilchrist.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Suppose he probably thinks that was 5-0 as England had no right to win that Test
Neil Pickup
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Heart > Head
Richard
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No, no, wasn't referring to 1989 (I'm very well-versed in 1990/91 and that infamous SCG game - why on Earth Gooch didn't bring back Malcolm the minute the rank rabbits Rackemann, Reid and Alderman were at the crease I'll never know), was referring to the one that actually was - in Australia in the 1920s, I forget whether it was '20/21 or '21/22 or what. There was a series in England, right before or right after, that was also almost a BaggyGreenWash - and I think it was four-nil.
Of course, how on Earth could I forget that?
A rare Test where rain gave a side the chance to win rather than draw. Almost certainly would've been a five-nil had lost play been make-up-able. Mind, England should never, ever have lost that Fifth Test either.
superkingdave
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1921 was 3-0, there was a (rain effected) draw at Old Trafford and another draw at the Oval.
England won 1-0 in 26
England won 1-0 in 26
Shoggz
School Boy/Girl Captain
My naural pessimism makes my immediate impulse to say 5-0 to Australia, but I do think that the weather will play it's part, so I'll predict 3-0 to the Aussies.
For England to win a single test, someone like Anderson will have to have one of his ocassional red letter days and the Aussies would have to seriously underperform.
For England to win a single test, someone like Anderson will have to have one of his ocassional red letter days and the Aussies would have to seriously underperform.
Burgey
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Don't think the gap's that big tbh, especially given our lack of experience and/ or success in English conditions at Test level.
Katich - no good there last time
Hughes - unknown
Ponting - serviceable but not outstanding last time
Hussey - unknown and long-term out of form
Clarke - not great last time, but a better player now in Tests
Watson - generally will be in Charing Cross Hospital. If anyone can get the bird flu on a tour to England without going anywhere near Mexico, it's Watto
North - unknown
Haddin - unknown
Lee - failed there before
Johnson - unknown
Clark - unknown
Hauritz/ Krezja/ McGain - unknown and variously impotent/ potent but expensive/ impotet and expensive.
Siddle/ Bollinger/ Hilfy - all unknown
Of course, not all these players will under perform, but likewise not all of them will succeed. I think we'll win, but I'm not sure it'll be a comprehensive as you suggest
Katich was actually the best batsman in the first Test in '05 and he's in good form. Hussey should come good as class is yadda yadda. Hughes will have a hughe series if he can maintain his current County form. And then there's the folks who can be expected to perform to ability, such as Ponting and Clarke, with useful lower order runs from Haddin and Johnson. No worries there, then.
I am expecting Australia to field an attack of Lee-Clark-Johnson-Siddle, with North filling in as spinner. Again, no real worries unless Clark and Lee have lost it during their injuries. In fact, England's best optiion might be to prepare raging turners as Swann is comfortably a better spinner than anything Australia can field atm.
I am expecting Australia to field an attack of Lee-Clark-Johnson-Siddle, with North filling in as spinner. Again, no real worries unless Clark and Lee have lost it during their injuries. In fact, England's best optiion might be to prepare raging turners as Swann is comfortably a better spinner than anything Australia can field atm.