Who would other countries choose, Scott Styris or Lou Vincent?

[Matt52]

What do other countries think of Scott styris?, I just think he is an overrated honest grafter that has been consistently chosen in his preferred spot of the middle order. But many in NZ rate him as one of NZ's best players.

Would you prefer him over Lou Vincent? a middle order player consistently asked to open by NZ. Seemingly more talented than Styris but talent wasted by not having him in his preferred middle order because that place is taken by Styris. Asked to do an unfamiliar job.

If folks from other countries were to choose, who would you pick ???/(for a middle order spot for NZ)

Just interested. Probably wont get many replies but just interested how other countries see the two.

 

[Jamee999]

Paul Collingwood.

 

[Perm]

Strictly speaking I'm not supposed to be answering this but in my books it's no contest. Styris is far more valuable in both our ODI and Test side than Vincent.

 

[mikeW]

none.

 

[Dasa]

Styris pretty easily for me. May not be as 'talented' as Vincent, but has performed far better over a longer time, and offers a lot more to any team. If you look at the first third of his career, he was pretty poor, but since then, he's been quite good.

Vincent has never really lived up to the hype and seems to be very inconsistent.

 

[_Ed_]

Useful replies so far.

I hope the selectors don't read this thread and decide that trying to get an Englishman or using 10 rather than 11 is a good idea. They seem to have thoughts as bizarre as those quite regularly.

 

[Perm]

After looking over Vincent's test record it's pretty good but one thing that really stands out is his inconsistency, couple that with the fact he isn't scoring runs for Auckland and his ODI performances are pretty woeful I think it's definately Styris for ODI's. For Test's I would have both of them.

 

[Proteas>Aussies]

Both not even Aussie State level cricketers.

 

[_Ed_]

Despite both having scored centuries against Australia?

 

[Proteas>Aussies]

Despite both having scored centuries against Australia?

Pure luck, even Carlisle scored a century V Australia.

 

[Perm]

I think they would be around the fringes of Pura Cup cricket to be perfectly honest, I know Styris was born in Australia so if he stayed there I would wonder how many FC games he would have to his name.

 

[Proteas>Aussies]

Styris would have gotten games, but how many is the question.

Vincent is pure trash though.

 

[_Ed_]

Vincent is pure trash though.

As his 71 off 49 balls, with Brett Lee's figures of 1-85 from 10, suggest.

 

[Craig]

Pure luck, even Carlisle scored a century V Australia.

Well TBF Vincent did get it on his debut, so that has to count for something more then pure luck.

 

[_Ed_]

Well TBF Vincent did get it on his debut, so that has to count for something more then pure luck.

At Perth, against a fairly high quality Australian pace attack. (one that together now has in excess of 1200 Test wickets)

 

[Perm]

Vincent certainly isn't pure trash but he is massively overrated I feel. If he started scoring some runs for Auckland then he might actually be given a chance in the middle order, based on his performances in domestic cricket. He hasn't earnt the chance so he didn't play against Sri Lanka.

 

[_Ed_]

That's fair enough, he probably is overrated. But he is not trash, and there are very few players I'd rather watch than Vincent when he's seeing the ball well.

 

[mikeW]

That's fair enough, he probably is overrated. But he is not trash, and there are very few players I'd rather watch than Vincent when he's seeing the ball well.

Is this NZ cricket or World?

 

[_Ed_]

NZ I guess, but he'd be in my top 10 favourite players to watch in the world when he's striking the ball well. He and McCullum would be the 2 NZers in my top 10.

 

[Perm]

Fleming and McCullum for me, with Flem being a clear #1. That innings he played against Muralitharan and Warne after the tsunami had struck last year was some of the cleanest hitting I have ever seen.