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Who is the Best "Cricketer" Ever?

Who is the best "Cricketer" ever

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kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
The Sean said:
How often is the same biased, disingenuous **** allowed to get posted over and over again in multiple threads before it becomes an issue?

Genuinely curious.
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How is it biased. First of all I was responding to a post by Smali. The only thing that is disengenuous is the attacks because my views differs from yours.
When I make statements, I am critisized for not supporting them, when I do, critisized because u disagree with them.
News flash, we can have differing opnions, and I can back mine up.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Of course it's not. Irony is provided by those who know nothing about the subject and make no attempt to pretend that they do.
 
L Trumper

L Trumper

State Regular
kyear2 said:
How is it biased. First of all I was responding to a post by Smali. The only thing that is disengenuous is the attacks because my views differs from yours.
When I make statements, I am critisized for not supporting them, when I do, critisized because u disagree with them.
News flash, we can have differing opnions, and I can back mine up.
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No you don't. You just spout the same nonsense again and again even when it is shown to be factually wrong.
 
fredfertang

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I have to say that this place has improved since LT's return - the double act with sledger shows particular promise
 
Kapil

Kapil

Cricket Spectator
A few points.

Firstly, on the subject of Bradman.

1. Have you seen his average against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe? He's still not out against them. #MinnowBasher

2. Personally, I feel his lack of runs in both the IPL and Big Bash speaks volumes.

And thirdly, his backlift came from second slip. EVERY coach will tell you that's a no-no.

As for my vote for greatest cricketer, I'd say one of either Trumper or Hobbs.

I may be somewhat biased against Bradman, considering I harbour resentment towards him for his treatment of Miller and Grimmett, but get over it.

With Sobers, I think a quote from a man the more knowledgeable members of this forum will know: Don Neely. "Sobers, I feel, was a great cricketer, however he scored his runs in a boring and slow period of cricket - draws were the norm. How much can you really read into that?"

I think that quote really proves to us that although we can make our selections for greatest cricketer of each time period (and even that is contentious), an all time greatest is an exercise in futility.
 
H4G

H4G

Banned
Monk said:
If we're looking at all-rounders as the greatest cricketers (in terms of contribution to their teams), I think it boils down to a select few.

The following players would have been selected for their national teams as either batsmen OR bowlers (or wicketkeepers):

Miller, Sobers, Jack Gregory, Botham, Gilchrist, Les Ames, Flintoff (briefly), Kapil Dev (probably would have been selected as a specialist bat even if he didn't bowl)

Players capable of batting top 6 and either being one of the four main bowlers, or being the wicketkeeper, have been pretty rare.


The following players would have definitely been picked for their dominant skill, but it's questionable whether they'd have been picked for their secondary skill:

Imran, Hadlee, Davidson, Kallis, Flower, Lindwall, Benaud, Wasim


Any I've forgotten?
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Imran wouldn't have been selected as a batsman alone? You should probably write comics than wasting your time here Sir :)
 
H4G

H4G

Banned
Satyanash89 said:
There are no double standards here. Sobers was West Indies' most important batsman and was also a frontline seamer. Im not even saying this makes Sobers the better cricketer....Just pointing out how vital he was to the team in both departments and that he would be a top pick as both batsman and bowler. Imran while obviously being Pakistan's best bowler for a long time was nowhere close to being their most important or irreplacable batsman. Simple enough to understand.

Just looked at the votes, and Kallis has the second most votes?!! Wow...kallisball indeed
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I've been following cricket closely for almost 50 years & yet to see a bowler more worst than Sobers.
 
harsh.ag

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
H4G said:
Its not only about what I've been watching but a statistical reality too :)
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That Sobers is the worst bowler you have seen is a statistical reality? Okay, I will bite. Tell me how. You can't, but try.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
He is at worse comparable to Kallis, and we see how valuable he is to that team. Sobers bore a much greater burden and on much less responsive wickets for the most part. They were times he had to open the bowling and come back to play the role of stock bowler holding up an end and controlling the run rate, some times as a seamer sometimes as a spinner.

Those players: Sobers, Chappell, Kallis, Hammond, (MCcabe, Simpson, Mitchell) ect are so valuable to their respective teams. Great batsmen first and foremeost who can come on and break partnerships or keep things quiet in the middle of an innings with the ball. On top of that these players were also spectacular slipfielders some times taking chances out of nothing helping to turn the tide of a match.
 
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