Oram's bowling is substantially better than Kallis' though.zinzan12 said:Jacob Oram is a better Test bat than both of them......but at this stage not as good with the ball.
Clearly Flintoff is the best Allrounder currently......I see Oram as more of a batting allrounder, a bit like Kallis in the 2nd half of his career.
Dwayne Bravo? (notwithstanding http://media.putfile.com/Flintoff-Sledging )Pratyush said:Flintoff is already a good bet for a test all rounder as he has proved the same.
If we are looking at the best all rounder for the future - 4-5 years from now (a considerable term for the word - future in this regard) Watson or Pathan are the only people I can think of from current lot.
Well there's always Liam Plunkett...Pratyush said:Flintoff is already a good bet for a test all rounder as he has proved the same.
If we are looking at the best all rounder for the future - 4-5 years from now (a considerable term for the word - future in this regard) Watson or Pathan are the only people I can think of from current lot.
Pretty good summing up there Andrew. I think his innings in the last ODI against ROW showed what kind of player he was, very dependable, but when it came to the death he obviously had trouble trying to hit out and score quick boundaries.age_master said:Watson is a far better FC batsman, but not as good a bowler (still seems to pick up wickets though) so i reakon Watson will probably end up with better stats, but he will never have quite the same impact on a game as Flintoff can due to being a less attacking style player.
why not if do you remember where what kind of bloke Freddie was 5 years ago he was extremely bits & pieces, Freddie at Watson's age wasn't as good and many people taught he was another Botham fraud but Fletcher saw the potential in him & look where is is now.open365 said:i'm not saying he isn't effective,far from it,but i can't see him reaching the same level and flintoff.