Streetwise
Banned
Yes in the seventies and eighties all the players were wonderful. There was never any sledging and all matches were played in good spirits. It was a game played between to teams of gentlemen.
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Which was worse
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Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
I don't remember TBH, hence the question. Just struck my memory that it was a team decision. Maybe others who remember the series better will comment. It would seem very un-Ponting-like to be selfish or put himself above the team anyway.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
What do you mean by team decision? Do you mean the coach was involved? If so yes. The coach came out and said why it was done.
Still falls on the captain though. Doubt other than Clarke and perhaps Hayden many other players had a say.
Brett Lee certianly did not, as he had no idea after tea. He wanted to bowl and was told by Clarke he couldn't.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
First time I've heard that, but it's a rank passing of the buck if so anyway. I bet Ponting doesn't set fields by commitee and, realistically, how many players are going to say "**** you, skipper. We wanna win."?
Should've manned up and taken his lumps for the team.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Maybe he should of. But I think painting Ponting as the kind of person who'd put the team ahead of himself is a bit disingenuous. It may look like that on the outside but I just didn't agree with your post trying to make it out as if he was going out of his way to do that.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Well, in all seriousness, I don't really see any other explanation than self-interest.
I'm not suggesting he's the kind of captain to always put himself before the team, but equally I can't recall any others bowling part-timers to avoid a ban/fine either.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Also, generally speaking, just because a guy puts himself above his team in one instance doesn't mean he is doing so all the time, right?
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
The Ponting situation has been argued frivilously before of CW & i'm stunned its still being talked about.
Ponting was just adhering to what the match referee told him & was forced into bowling part-timers on that 4th day of that 4th test. If he could have kept bowling the main bowlers (mainly the fast bowlers) he certainly would have
The ICC code of conduct is very important. The match-referee gives an ultimatum, it was Ponting job to adhere to it. Him bowling his main-bowlers & desrespecting that although he could have done so, would not have been right.
CricketAustralia accepted Ponting explanation ATT, so the mischaracterising of what Ponting did in Nagpur 08 test needs to stop.
Ponting was just adhering to what the match referee told him & was forced into bowling part-timers on that 4th day of that 4th test. If he could have kept bowling the main bowlers (mainly the fast bowlers) he certainly would have
The ICC code of conduct is very important. The match-referee gives an ultimatum, it was Ponting job to adhere to it. Him bowling his main-bowlers & desrespecting that although he could have done so, would not have been right.
CricketAustralia accepted Ponting explanation ATT, so the mischaracterising of what Ponting did in Nagpur 08 test needs to stop.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
It was a mad rush after tea on that 4th day to get through overs. He (& Clarke for a period while Punter was off the field) had Krejza bowling @ one end, he obviously couldn't have bowled the fast bowlers he wanted for a 15-20 over period, so Hussey bowled. Maybe he could have bowled Katch yea, but the overall point & fact he was forced into bowling bowler he didn't want I remember the commotion on the field with Clarke sending Lee back to boundary saying he cant bowl.
Ponting isn't crazy. IIRC @ tea on the 4th afternoon AUS had IND 160+/7 7 where right back into the tests. He certainly did have a brain-failure & bowled that part-timers for no sane reason, with an potential chance to come back into the game & save the BG Trophy. He was unfortunately forced to quite clearly.
Streetwise
Banned
I can clearing remember lots of teams bringing on part times to increase the over rate, I would go as far to say that it is a very normal thing for captains to do.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yeah.. it is very normal that it costs you the series too.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
The sheer denial of posters to admit that Ponting made a mistake at Nagpur is incredible. I actually can't believe something so blatant gets defended.
Look, you can argue it doesn't make him a bad captain. You can argue many of the other good things he's done as captain outweigh it. That is a fair enough debate.
But to defend his decision is a bridge too far.
Look, you can argue it doesn't make him a bad captain. You can argue many of the other good things he's done as captain outweigh it. That is a fair enough debate.
But to defend his decision is a bridge too far.
Streetwise
Banned
I think its more if it wasnt Ponting it would be a non issue, the enjoyment is watching how posters react to Ponting.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yeah.. and it is even more enjoyable when people react to facts.
slowfinger
International Debutant
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