Its not "wanting him to fail", its more deriding his achievements. That's the difference I think.Yeah but Jono don't pretend that him overperforming is the only reason people want him to fail. He's a wanker.
Why? Any particular reason or incident?Yeah but Jono don't pretend that him overperforming is the only reason people want him to fail. He's a wanker.
I've found that pretty weird though because yousuf's 2006 run had a couple of outstanding innings on difficult pitches as well, and one particular knock on a greentop in SA that is criminally underrated. Was a stunning knock but people never talk about it. I was amazed at how good that innings was when I watched it live.But bagging Philander's record is like the people who bagged Yousuf's 2006 because his runs were on flat tracks, like no other batsman has batted on flat tracks but failed to break Viv's record before.
I remember that, it was still part of the same purple patch.I've found that pretty weird though because yousuf's 2006 run had a couple of outstanding innings on difficult pitches as well, and one particular knock on a greentop in SA that is criminally underrated. Was a stunning knock but people never talk about it. I was amazed at how good that innings was when I watched it live.
Edit: Wait I was wrong, the innings in SA was in January of 07, but the point stands.
That third match is the match I'm talking about. Yousuf scored 70-odd with his partners contributing ****all on a pitch where all 4 innings were around 150. If Pakistan had won that game, it'd be called an ATG series winning knock. But they lost and it languishes as a forgotten gem. He really couldn't have done much more in that deciding test.I remember that, it was still part of the same purple patch.
But see here is the frustrating thing with Yousuf. He was not really able to continue that form onto the South Africa series when Pakistan needed it more than ever. Look at the third test from the same series. How badly did Pak need a century from him in that game..and Pakistan would have won their first ever series in South Africa.
He also scored a mountain of runs in EnglandWasn't he beltng the **** out of WI scoring a ton every match?
but that's not when he was looking like he'd break the record and the criticism (or rather, watering down of the achievement) came in.He also scored a mountain of runs in England
This is a bit of a **** post and a wahhh really isn't itHis average is a lot better than Jimmy Anderson's, pretty much the reason.
Yeah but no matter what the conditions, Yousef still had to score those runs. Without wishing to deride his wicket-taking too much, Philander was, in my view, very poorly played early on. I personally don't think he's bowling much worse now but the bats seem to be giving him some respect and his wickets have dried up, something that happens with most swing bowlers. How he responds will be how he's regarded even if his average stays sub-25 before he retires.Its not "wanting him to fail", its more deriding his achievements. That's the difference I think.
Agree he's not a likeable chap.
Also the phrase "don't pretend" is **** in this context. Not defending Philander or pretending anything. But bagging Philander's record is like the people who bagged Yousuf's 2006 because his runs were on flat tracks, like no other batsman has batted on flat tracks but failed to break Viv's record before.
***** already covered that:Wasn't he beltng the **** out of WI scoring a ton every match?
His innings were of no consequence
Haha, yeah, he shouldn't have been opening the bowling because he wasn't really quick.Literally no one believed he was going to be a 15 average bowler. I don't get the obsession with pointing that out, it reaked of tall poppy syndrome.
And much of the Sky box, Atherton mainly, kept having a go at Philander's bowling style. Holding was being an epic dick about it too.
Bloke can bowl. He's not the next Malcolm Marshall, oh well.