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When was Azharuddin forgiven?
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So, according to the film, Azhar took bribes and fixed matches solely to keep the rest of the team clean and take all the blame himself. He's basically The dark Knight, people. The hero we deserve 
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duffer
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You paid good money to watch this? It looks as big a racket as match fixing itself. Not going near it.So, according to the film, Azhar took bribes and fixed matches solely to keep the rest of the team clean and take all the blame himself. He's basically The dark Knight, people. The hero we deserve
honestbharani
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I will gladly watch BvS before this crap they r calling a movie...
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**** no I didn't watch it. I read a review.
G.I.Joe
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PEWS, permission to retcon "Don't be Zohaib" to "Don't be Azhar"?So, according to the film, Azhar took bribes and fixed matches solely to keep the rest of the team clean and take all the blame himself. He's basically The dark Knight, people. The hero we deserve
G.I.Joe
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Heh, was reading this book the other day that expounded, in satirical terms, on that sort of mentality these dodgy instigators have.
Background: Guy is a fence for high art who's been anointed by the thieves to strike a deal, and Jacques Perly the 'recovery agent' for the Insurance companies representing the victim, Harry Hochman. (When it's well-recognised art, potential buyers are scarce, so the thieves instead employ the fence to sell the stuff back to the insurance companies for a sum that is lesser than what the insurance companies would generally have to compensate the actual owner with. In monetary terms, a win-win situation for both the thieves and the insurance company, and no loss to the victim other than the subsequent premium-hit. Sound similar to the argument of 'victimless crime' made by some folks in match fixing threads?).
“Good afternoon,” Guy said as Tony seated him and Angelo distributed menus and Kwa Hong Yo brought rolls, butter, and water. “You’re looking well.”
“And you.”
Menus were consulted, food and wine were ordered, and then Guy took the bulky envelope from his inner pocket and, without a word, handed it over. Perly raised an eyebrow, removed the photos from the envelope, leafed through them, and smiled dolefully as he said, “A well-documented felony.”
‘These are professionals,” Guy assured him. “We don’t have to worry about any of the works being harmed.”
“No, I suppose not. May I keep these?”
“Of course.”
Food and wine arrived and were consumed, with small talk about the city, the weather, the disappointing Broadway season— “Although Nana: The Musical isn’t bad,” Perly suggested—and one’s plans for the summer.
Then, over espresso and raspberries, Perly said, “Honestly, Guy, the extreme professionalism of these people, with all these Polaroid prints, gives me pause. Are we creating this monster, you and I?”
Guy looked askance. “Which monster is that, Jacques?”
“These thieves,” Perly explained. “If they were to steal a loaf of bread, it would be to eat. If they steal money, it’s to spend; jewelry, to pawn. But when they steal an art collection like this”—tap tap on the envelope of photos—“it is only to sell it back. And how could they do that, if it were not for you and me? We are certainly collaborators in their crimes, but are we more? Do we encourage the commission of these crimes, by our very existence? Do we instigate them?”
“Nonsense,” Guy said in automatic disagreement. “People will steal anything; you know that as well as I do. We don’t encourage the theft; we encourage the recovery.”
“Without the punishment of the perpetrators.”
“With or without,” Guy said, dismissing that. “Capturing is the police’s job. Recovery is ours.”
“But if we didn’t exist, Guy, you and I, what would these very professional thieves do with all these paintings and sculptures they’ve just loaded so precisely into their truck? Would they present their demands direct to Harry Hochman? He’d set the dogs on them.”
Guy smiled faintly. “Or the shotguns, more likely.”
“Exactly. We are the go-betweens, and necessary, if anything useful is to be done. But in this instance, don’t the go-betweens create the very condition they’re supposed to be alleviating?”
Guy shook his head, irritated by this conversation and surprised that a man like Jacques Perly would demonstrate such compunction. “The thieves will sell Hochman’s art to the insurance companies, through us. You want to know what they would do without us? Or without the insurance companies, who, after all, put up the money, so maybe they create the monster.”
“Very possible,” Perly said, nodding.
Guy didn’t need that particular agreement. “Without any of us,” he said, “the thieves would find a way to make contact with art dealers in Europe. Switzerland, for instance, or Holland. Or maybe South America.
The dealers would buy, no questions asked. The dealers—some of the dealers, anyway, and you know a number of them yourself, Jacques—those dealers would be happy to cobble together brand-new authentication and sell the works to collectors anywhere. There’s a market beyond us, Jacques, and you’re just being provocative to suggest there isn’t, and you know it. What we do is keep the collection together, no small consideration, and in the rightful owner’s hands.”
Eyes twinkling, Perly sipped espresso, bit delicately into a raspberry, and said, “So, Guy. You mean we are without guilt?”
“Absolutely,” Guy said. Blotches of red stood on his cheeks.
“Such a relief,” Perly murmured.
Depends whether you believe he told the whole truth for the king commission or not. I don't believe he did, believe he left out a lot...
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mr_mister
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I have more respect for Azharuddin than most when it comes to match fixers(eg Hansie)
This is a man who gave his all for his country and still had to cop thousands of people burning effigies of him and threatening violence at various times when the team he captained lost important matches (1996 world cup)
My morals and respect for my country might get corrupted too
This is a man who gave his all for his country and still had to cop thousands of people burning effigies of him and threatening violence at various times when the team he captained lost important matches (1996 world cup)
My morals and respect for my country might get corrupted too
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Yeah, load of bollocks from mr_mister there.
Shri
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He doesn't know how long it takes to believe in a team again and come out of the "Lol, fixed.", mentality after every loss.