What's the future hold for Gillespie?

[open365]

He'll never get back to his oldself imo, though i'd still like to see him bowl again

 

[Johnners]

Dizzy isn't all that far out of the picture. He bowled well when he returned to the pura-cup, and regained some of the lost zip. IMO he is behind Clark, but still ahead of Johnson. Johnson is still fairly RAW, and whilst his 4-11 against India was some great bowling, it was only an ODI match, and India were chasing runs.

When it comes down to it, i think the selectors would go for Dizzy ahead of Jonhson if something happened to 1 of McGrath, Lee & Clark. It is the ashes and Gillespie has the all important experience. If he's been bowling well in the Pura-Cup, he'd get the nod for mine on the "better the devil you know" theory.

Did anyone else notice Dizzy seemed to get it all happening again when he lost he mullet

 

[andyc]

That's all true. But, they are different forms of the game. We've seen Bracken can be a gun in ODIs but he is woeful in the longer version of the game. If Gillespie is taking a mass of wicket he should be at least in the squad of 12.

That's a bit harsh, he's only played 5 games, and it's not as if he's been carted or anything.

But as for Gillespie, I'm hoping that the selectors have moved on. He didn't really perform at a level suiting to an international player at Yorkshire, and yes, he took a few wickets and made a double century against Bangladesh, but who cares?

 

[Mister Wright]

That's a bit harsh, he's only played 5 games, and it's not as if he's been carted or anything.

But as for Gillespie, I'm hoping that the selectors have moved on. He didn't really perform at a level suiting to an international player at Yorkshire, and yes, he took a few wickets and made a double century against Bangladesh, but who cares?

When you've been put into the side ahead of other bowlers because you're a left armer to offer variation and then spend half your time bowling around the wicket, I'd call that woeful.

 

[Slow Love™]

Dizzy isn't all that far out of the picture. He bowled well when he returned to the pura-cup, and regained some of the lost zip. IMO he is behind Clark, but still ahead of Johnson. Johnson is still fairly RAW, and whilst his 4-11 against India was some great bowling, it was only an ODI match, and India were chasing runs.

When it comes down to it, i think the selectors would go for Dizzy ahead of Jonhson if something happened to 1 of McGrath, Lee & Clark. It is the ashes and Gillespie has the all important experience. If he's been bowling well in the Pura-Cup, he'd get the nod for mine on the "better the devil you know" theory.

Did anyone else notice Dizzy seemed to get it all happening again when he lost he mullet

Haha, though I think many suggested it might help to get rid of it.

I for one, wouldn't mind seeing Gillespie get a run in the Ashes at all, particularly if he could wipe a few smiles off a few Englishmen's faces. He was always a favorite of mine, and it was so depressing to see him so beaten and defeated that series (I really wondered if something had gone terribly wrong in his personal life). Mind you, if he looks anything like he did this time, let's not persist with him as long as the last Ashes. Not that I think we'll make that mistake again.

 

[Johnners]

The only reason the persisted with him last ashses was because who else was there to bowl??? Kaspa was just as bad, and Tait was relatively inexperienced.

If Clark gets carted, dizzy will get the spot for the reasons i mentioned above. However i'm with andy in that we should move on, his best days are behind him, and i don't think i could handle seeing him plastered all over the park again!

 

[andyc]

Please clarify WHEN was this.....because as far as I remember there are many instances where Australia tore India to threads, just exactly which one are you talking about.

... When Johnson took 4/11 against India last week.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I for one, wouldn't mind seeing Gillespie get a run in the Ashes at all, particularly if he could wipe a few smiles off a few Englishmen's faces. He was always a favorite of mine, and it was so depressing to see him so beaten and defeated that series (I really wondered if something had gone terribly wrong in his personal life). Mind you, if he looks anything like he did this time, let's not persist with him as long as the last Ashes. Not that I think we'll make that mistake again.

Yeah. The Gillespie situation is a bit like the Gilchrist one for me. I'd like to see him have a useful role in the Ashes just to turn around the perception that he's some sort of overrated hack based on one series. I'm a bit more confident about Gilchrist though...

Same goes for Ponting as captain, incidentally.

 

[Jono]

Same goes for Ponting as captain, incidentally.

Except that 'perception' isn't based on one series.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Except that 'perception' isn't based on one series.

Not entirely, but I was speaking with reference to the Ashes. Gillespie's had a few other bad series as well, and so has Gilchrist, but the bulk of the drop in reputation for all three was related to their performance in the Ashes. I actually think that Ponting is a far better captain than he is usually given credit for. He's not the best around or anything, but he's certainly above the normal standard, and I don't think he'd have the poor reputation he has now if it wasn't for the Ashes, and mainly the Edgbaston call.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Haha, though I think many suggested it might help to get rid of it.

I for one, wouldn't mind seeing Gillespie get a run in the Ashes at all, particularly if he could wipe a few smiles off a few Englishmen's faces. He was always a favorite of mine, and it was so depressing to see him so beaten and defeated that series (I really wondered if something had gone terribly wrong in his personal life). Mind you, if he looks anything like he did this time, let's not persist with him as long as the last Ashes. Not that I think we'll make that mistake again.

He'd been wiping smiles of our faces since 1997 up until last year or have you forgotten, and I doubt he ever felt sorry for the English batsmen he'd tormented for eight years, "going through a rough patch" or otherwise.

Allow us a little schadenfreude, after such a barren run against the old enemy it was nice to be able to laugh at rather than be laughed at for a change, and as I've said before Dizzy is big and strong enough to take it on the chin.

 

[howardj]

I would be very surprised if Gillespie wore Australian colours again. I think, based on his Ashes form; his bowling against Bangladesh; and his bowling during the County Championship, that the selectors are very close to closing his file. My take on his bowling is that he is still very vulnerable when batsmen attack him - England, like in 2005, would do exactly that. Put simply, he's lost his 'nip'. Like deodorant, you don't notice 'nip' when it's there, but you sure do when it's not.

 

[aussie]

I would be very surprised if Gillespie wore Australian colours again. I think, based on his Ashes form; his bowling against Bangladesh; and his bowling during the County Championship, that the selectors are very close to closing his file. My take on his bowling is that he is still very vulnerable when batsmen attack him - England, like in 2005, would do exactly that. Put simply, he's lost his 'nip'. Like deodorant, you don't notice 'nip' when it's there, but you sure do when it's not.

yea dawg, feeling that way for real, the county season was where Dizzy was supposed to lock it off, proving to the selectors that he can still take wickets. With the emergence of Johnson, Dizzy needs a VERY GOOD pura cup season especially with Tait poised to do big things as well or else it will be hard for him to play again.

 

[Kweek]

another double surely?

 

[Shabash Tapash]

evicted from his caravan site ....... hopefully.

 

[Slow Love™]

I would be very surprised if Gillespie wore Australian colours again. I think, based on his Ashes form; his bowling against Bangladesh; and his bowling during the County Championship, that the selectors are very close to closing his file. My take on his bowling is that he is still very vulnerable when batsmen attack him - England, like in 2005, would do exactly that. Put simply, he's lost his 'nip'. Like deodorant, you don't notice 'nip' when it's there, but you sure do when it's not.

Haha, so smooth, howard. You're on fire lately, mate.