What qualifies as a Wasted Talent?

[Slifer]

Can't see how it can be anyone else than Carl Hooper. Was already an excellent fielder but with a Chanderpaul like mentality, he could've easily averaged 45 or so. The guy actually managed 100s vs the Ws, McWarne etc.

 

[nightprowler10]

Surely Asif wins this thread.

 

[honestbharani]

What qualifies as a wasted talent?


Posting on CW?

 

[nightprowler10]

What qualifies as a wasted talent?


Posting on CW?

Being talented is a prerequisite.

 

[Starfighter]

To more directly address the OP, it's where a player does not live up to the expectations that their apparent ability and/or domestic and/or early international figures would give. This especially applies if there is some barrier (perhaps aside from injury) that seems to have prevented them from doing so.

 

[ankitj]

Munaf Patel - brilliant bowler but too lazy to care about fitness.

Hilarious thing about him is that he was touted as the fastest bowler India ever produced before he debuted. Then turned out to be a 130k trundler.

 

[honestbharani]

Hilarious thing about him is that he was touted as the fastest bowler India ever produced before he debuted. Then turned out to be a 130k trundler.

He bowled 144+ in his first year and a bit tbh. Against England at home and against Windies in 2006. GC made him the trundler.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Wasn't he completely leg side dominant though with no offside game? Sounds like he had half of everything

Not at all. He had his strength like all batsman, but at 21 he looked real class.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Rilee Rossouw, how on Earth did we not give this lad a Test debut ?
I remember him getting a triple hundred as a 19 year old in FC cricket thinking gee wheez we've got a talent on his hands , went down the T20 route and made a killing but what could have been ...

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

From other countries I would say Umar Akmal...I really thought he was gonna be what Babar Azam is today , Mohammad Amir come on this really should have been a 500 wicket bowler if he played for one of the big 3 ...Those five years he spent away from the game it really hurt his development..

West Indies hmm Darren Bravo for sure but I'm also tempted to say Andre Russell...This guy could have been a pretty handy Test cricketer if he put his mind to it , he's got the personality, world class fielder , can bowl 90 miles per hour and can smack a cricket ball ..

 

[Calm_profit]

Can't see how it can be anyone else than Carl Hooper. Was already an excellent fielder but with a Chanderpaul like mentality, he could've easily averaged 45 or so. The guy actually managed 100s vs the Ws, McWarne etc.

On his day, he was more pleasing to watch than Lara.

 

[Slifer]

On his day, he was more pleasing to watch than Lara.

Very much so....

 

[Dendarii]

Rilee Rossouw, how on Earth did we not give this lad a Test debut ?

He got injured at the wrong time and Bavuma debuted instead. Then he decided to go Kolpak before another spot opened up in the batting line-up.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Chris Lewis
Mark Ramprakash
Graeme Hick

These are just guys that weren't as good as people thought they were

 

[Fuller Pilch]

To more directly address the OP, it's where a player does not live up to the expectations that their apparent ability and/or domestic and/or early international figures would give.

Skippy Sinclair
Chris Harris
Michael Bevan

 

[TheJediBrah]

To more directly address the OP, it's where a player does not live up to the expectations that their apparent ability and/or domestic and/or early international figures would give. This especially applies if there is some barrier (perhaps aside from injury) that seems to have prevented them from doing so.

I don't quite agree. Players who dominated domestic cricket, especially weaker competitions like County cricket in the 90s, and then weren't great at Tests (eg. Hick, Ramprakash) aren't "wasted talent" IMO. They just couldn't make the step up.

For me it has to be if there is a barrier like you mention. Like Shane Bond, Jesse Ryder or even someone that didn't get opportunity because of selection like a Steve O'Keefe or later career Bevan

 

[Starfighter]

I don't quite agree. Players who dominated domestic cricket, especially weaker competitions like County cricket in the 90s, and then weren't great at Tests (eg. Hick, Ramprakash) aren't "wasted talent" IMO. They just couldn't make the step up.

For me it has to be if there is a barrier like you mention. Like Shane Bond, Jesse Ryder or even someone that didn't get opportunity because of selection like a Steve O'Keefe or later career Bevan

Well a lot of people do considerably Hick and Ramprakash wasted talent. CC in the 90s was still a stronger comp that the domestics in most countries.

Skippy Sinclair
Chris Harris
Michael Bevan

Not sure I'd consider the impenetrativeness in tests of Harris' 90 km/h wobblers wasted talent. I suppose you're talking about his batting.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Not sure I'd consider the impenetrativeness in tests of Harris' 90 km/h wobblers wasted talent.

1st class batting average of 45.5 (better than Fleming, Astle, McMillan, Richardson etc.), test batting av of 20.5.
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[TheJediBrah]

Well a lot of people do considerably Hick and Ramprakash wasted talent. CC in the 90s was still a stronger comp that the domestics in most countries.

They played 50-60 Tests. They weren't wasted talent, they just didn't have the talent that people thought. Good domestic players, not great Test players.

 

[Coronis]

Good domestic players, not great Test players.

Like Bevan. Australia however, unlike England, had a bevy of talent waiting in line so they didn’t stick with him for 50-60 tests.