What other side do you support?

[longtom]

Voted NZ.
I guess their setup and difficulties are pretty much the same as those the SA team faces. Rugby(or soccer)crazy nation for whom cricket only fills the empty spots.
In NZ it just even appears more so....

 

[Arjun]

The way cricket has developed over the years, I find it difficult to support another team- after all, it will be the same team that will square off against my own country's team. It's like a message on ESPN/STAR's Sportscenter- "I wish Muralitharan all success...except against India". If any team, I've supported that team because of a favourite player of mine there- South Africa for Klusener, Pollock and Donald, New Zealand for Astle, Cairns and Bond, England for Flintoff, Giles and Harmison, Sri Lanka for Sanath, Sanga, Vaas, Dilhara, Maharoof (that's not much, but still something), but it's hard to be loyal to that other team forever- they square off against India and it's back to being a hardcore India supporter.

That's why I say I'd support a club or county team rather than another international team. From India, I support Mumbai, Uttar Pradesh, Railways, Delhi, Baroda, Punjab and Haryana. From England, I support Warwicks (first team I've seen on television), Middlesex (for Irfan Pathan), Worcestershire (for Zaheer) and Nottinghamshire (for Trent Bridge, a favourite venue of mine). From Australia, I support NSW (easy pick), and from South Africa, I support KZN (for Klusener) and Orange (for Donald), but these are casual choices- I don't follow these teams as much as I follow an Indian FC team.

 

[Flem274*]

So you support India? What is wrong with those three teams?

well you support SL, there's one problem.

 

[Athlai]

well you support SL, there's one problem.

Na no need to troll back at him mate. He'll learn in good time.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

well you support SL, there's one problem.

Meh, can't believe NZ's luck in our last tour. There was a two test series drawn and the ODIs were drawn as well after an undermanned SL bowling attack dismantled them for 75. Chamara SIlva scored a century and a fifty in a test lol. One of the worst batsmen that has ever played for SL scoring runs suggests how good NZ's bowling attack was. The unfinished business was completed in the WC semi final though with Upul Tharanga smashing Shane Bond (NZ's best ever paceman) around the park

 

[Athlai]

Meh, can't believe NZ's luck in our last tour. There was a two test series drawn and the ODIs were drawn as well after an undermanned SL bowling attack dismantled them for 75. Chamara SIlva scored a century and a fifty in a test lol. One of the worst batsmen that's even played for SL scoring runs suggests how good NZ's bowling attack was. The unfinished business was completed in the WC semi final though with Upul Tharanga smashing Shane Bond (NZ's best paceman) around the park

Suggesting that NZ has a poor bowling attack and particularly at home shows an ignorance to the game. NZ and SL have a history of good competition between each other.

I mean you note how Chamara Silva scored against us? Well the Marshall brothers both hit Sri Lanka around! Hamish averages 57.33 against SL and James 39.66 and these guys are far worse than Silva! If you didn't have Sanga's a truly great batsman on your team the series would have slid our way quite firmly.

The teams are very well matched and while NZ doesn't have the greats like Sanga or Murali in our lineup we also have a consistent amount of talent throughout the team (Vettori/Oram/Franklin/Fleming etc.). Both teams work very well as a unit and few teams can match them in that aspect of the game.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

Suggesting that NZ has a poor bowling attack and particularly at home shows an ignorance to the game. NZ and SL have a history of good competition between each other.

I mean you note how Chamara Silva scored against us? Well the Marshall brothers both hit Sri Lanka around! Hamish averages 57.33 against SL and James 39.66 and these guys are far worse than Silva! If you didn't have Sanga's a truly great batsman on your team the series would have slid our way quite firmly.

The teams are very well matched and while NZ doesn't have the greats like Sanga or Murali in our lineup we also have a consistent amount of talent throughout the team (Vettori/Oram/Franklin/Fleming etc.). Both teams work very well as a unit and few teams can match them in that aspect of the game.

Hamish has a test century against Australia and James has played like three games against us. Silva has been a consistent failure against all other sides. And please, what decent bowlers does NZ have other than Vettori? If Kyle Mills is your best bowler then you are in real strife against Australia. Farveez Maharoof has 111 wickets at an economy of 4.62, he has 136 wickets at an economy of 4.65. I just read an article that Mills was ready to "lead the attack" in Australia. It's pathetic to think that one of our little known bowlers is as good as NZ's best bowler currently.

 

[Athlai]

Hamish has a test century against Australia and James has played like three games against us. Silva has been a consistent failure against all other sides. And please, what decent bowlers does NZ have other than Vettori? If Kyle Mills is your best bowler then you are in real strife against Australia. Farveez Maharoof has 111 wickets at an economy of 4.62, he has 136 wickets at an economy of 4.65. I just read an article that Mills was ready to "lead the attack" in Australia. It's pathetic to think that one of our little known bowlers is as good as NZ's best bowler currently.

You are a hopeless case.

1)Defending Marshall.

2)Criticizing one of the finest opening ODI bowlers in the world. While Mills isn't a top line Test bowler his ODI prowess is undeniable.

3)And I rate Roofers I really do but if your going to bring up his record you should note how vastly it changes if you only include the top 8 teams.

His average goes up to 31.09 and his economy to 4.95.

Come on mate you're just trolling.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

You are a hopeless case.

Defending Marshall.

Criticizing one of the finest opening ODI bowlers in the world.

And I rate Roofers I really do but if your going to bring up his record you should note how vastly it changes if you only include the top 8 teams.

His average goes up to 31.09 and his economy to 4.95.

Come on mate your just trollin.

I provided raw statistics to back up my claims. Just compare both bowlers for yourself. Maharoof is only 24 as well and he is a better batsman than Mills, who is 29. And calling Mills as one of the finest opening bowlers in the world is trolling, that's an insult to the likes of Steyn and Bracken.

 

[Athlai]

I provided raw statistics to back up my claims. Just compare both bowlers to yourself. Maharoof is only 24 as well and he is a better batsman than Mills, who is 29. And calling Mills as one of the finest opening bowlers in the world is trolling, that's an insult to the likes of Steyn and Bracken.

Okay you want raw statistics? Fine
(and yeah Maharoof is a much better batsman than Mills no denying that buddy, nor am I saying Maharoof doesn't have the potential to be a decent bowler in the future as he has a long career ahead of him)
Opening bowlers since the start of 07
(Qualification 30 wickets, average less than 30, opening the bowling positions 1-2)

NW Kulasekara (SL) 42 @ 18.23 Econ 3.96
SE Bond (NZ) 33 @ 19.66 Econ 3.98
PJ Ongondo (Ken) 37 @ 19.86 Econ 4.17
KD Mills (NZ) 48 @ 22.60 Econ 4.62
Umar Gul (Pak) 37 @ 23.32 Econ 4.93
NW Bracken (Aus) 66 @ 23.62 Econ 4.29
SL Malinga (SL) 44 @ 24.38 Econ 4.87
B Lee (Aus) 48 @ 25.60 Econ 4.81
Sohail Tanvir (Pak) 40 @ 28.02 Econ 5.00
RP Singh (Ind) 32 @ 28.28 Econ 5.43
DBL Powell (WI) 58 @ 29.51 Econ 4.86

Now if remove matches against the minnows we are left with 5 opening bowlers:

NW Bracken (Aus) 60 @ 23.93 Econ 4.36
B Lee (Aus) 48 @ 25.60 Econ 4.81
KD Mills (NZ) 33 @ 27.48 Econ 4.92
SL Malinga (SL) 34 @ 29.32 Econ 5.16
M Ntini (SA) 38 @ 29.97 Econ 5.13

Mills is easily up there (I did not say he was the best opening bowler in the world, merely one of the finest). And there are your stats to prove it.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

Okay you want raw statistics? Fine
(and yeah Maharoof is a much better batsman than Mills no denying that buddy, nor am I saying Maharoof doesn't have the potential to be a decent bowler in the future as he has a long career ahead of him)
Opening bowlers since the start of 07
(Qualification 30 wickets, average less than 30, opening the bowling positions 1-2)

NW Kulasekara (SL) 42 @ 18.23 Econ 3.96
SE Bond (NZ) 33 @ 19.66 Econ 3.98
PJ Ongondo (Ken) 37 @ 19.86 Econ 4.17
KD Mills (NZ) 48 @ 22.60 Econ 4.62
Umar Gul (Pak) 37 @ 23.32 Econ 4.93
NW Bracken (Aus) 66 @ 23.62 Econ 4.29
SL Malinga (SL) 44 @ 24.38 Econ 4.87
B Lee (Aus) 48 @ 25.60 Econ 4.81
Sohail Tanvir (Pak) 40 @ 28.02 Econ 5.00
RP Singh (Ind) 32 @ 28.28 Econ 5.43
DBL Powell (WI) 58 @ 29.51 Econ 4.86

Now if remove matches against the minnows we are left with 5 opening bowlers:

NW Bracken (Aus) 60 @ 23.93 Econ 4.36
B Lee (Aus) 48 @ 25.60 Econ 4.81
KD Mills (NZ) 33 @ 27.48 Econ 4.92
SL Malinga (SL) 34 @ 29.32 Econ 5.16
M Ntini (SA) 38 @ 29.97 Econ 5.13

Mills is easily up there (I did not say he was the best opening bowler in the world, merely one of the finest). And there are your stats to prove it.

Fair enough but Maharoof's best bowling figures is better than Mills. He had 6-14 against WI and Mills had 5-25 against SA. But they occurred a couple of years ago now. Mills is probably a better bowler than Maharoof atm but that's not my point. NZ's bowling attack is a farce with Mills being slightly better than Maharoof.

 

[Athlai]

Fair enough but Maharoof's best bowling figures is better than Mills. He had 6-14 against WI and Mills had 5-25 against SA. But they occurred a couple of years ago now. Mills is probably a better bowler than Maharoof atm but that's not my point. NZ's bowling attack is a farce with Mills being slightly better than Maharoof.

Opening the bowling in this period against top 8 teams Maharoof's figures are:

MF Maharoof (SL) 11 @ 30.72 Econ 5.46

Mills is a very good swing bowler with a wicked slower ball I'm not sure where you're getting this from? Since 2007 only Bracken, Kula, Lee and Bond have been more successful with the new ball.

And the NZ attack since 2007 against top 8 teams reads:
DL Vettori 46 @ 28.48 Econ 4.03
KD Mills 33 @ 27.48 Econ 4.92
MR Gillespie 29 @ 40.20 Econ 5.52
SE Bond 28 @ 21.32 Econ 4.26
JEC Franklin 20 @ 30.35 Econ 5.18
TG Southee 18 @ 23.16 Econ 5.34
JS Patel 15 @ 50.80 Econ 5.23
JDP Oram 14 @ 52.07 Econ 4.37

The only out and out poor bowlers there have been Gillespie and Patel (specialist death bowlers) Oram has been unpenetrative but cheap add to that O'Brien is ready to come into the team and will make an excellent 3rd seamer and few attacks are much better than a full strength NZ one. SL+Aus are probably the only two who are better, with NZ falling in line with SA and India.

 

[Zinzan]

Meh, can't believe NZ's luck in our last tour. There was a two test series drawn and the ODIs were drawn as well after an undermanned SL bowling attack dismantled them for 75. Chamara SIlva scored a century and a fifty in a test lol. One of the worst batsmen that has ever played for SL scoring runs suggests how good NZ's bowling attack was. The unfinished business was completed in the WC semi final though with Upul Tharanga smashing Shane Bond (NZ's best ever paceman) around the park

You really are a complete & utter ....

aren't you & about as subtle as a Rhinoceros horn up the backside

Guessing your days here are numbered if the mods do their job & in the mean-time I'm sure you'll find less & less CW members will bother replying to your blatant posts

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

I provided raw statistics to back up my claims. Just compare both bowlers for yourself. Maharoof is only 24 as well and he is a better batsman than Mills, who is 29. And calling Mills as one of the finest opening bowlers in the world is trolling, that's an insult to the likes of Steyn and Bracken.

Fair enough but Maharoof's best bowling figures is better than Mills. He had 6-14 against WI and Mills had 5-25 against SA. But they occurred a couple of years ago now. Mills is probably a better bowler than Maharoof atm but that's not my point. NZ's bowling attack is a farce with Mills being slightly better than Maharoof.

Nice trolling, maybe you should stop trolling and start watching cricket.

I especially liked the part were you say you back up your claims with raw statistics, then use AGE, BEST BOWLING FIGURES, and listing WICKETS TAKEN and ECONOMY RATE while conveniently leaving out BOWLING AVERAGE to prove that Maharoof is the better bowler.

 

[Zinzan]

Nice trolling, maybe you should stop trolling and start watching cricket.

I especially liked the part were you say you back up your claims with raw statistics, then use AGE, BEST BOWLING FIGURES, and listing WICKETS TAKEN and ECONOMY RATE while conveniently leaving out BOWLING AVERAGE to prove that Maharoof is the better bowler.

Yup, ridiculous tbh & a complete embarrassment to Sri Lankan fans, most of which are passionate yet very respectful of their opposition.

 

[Flem274*]

Okay you want raw statistics? Fine
(and yeah Maharoof is a much better batsman than Mills no denying that buddy, nor am I saying Maharoof doesn't have the potential to be a decent bowler in the future as he has a long career ahead of him)
Opening bowlers since the start of 07
(Qualification 30 wickets, average less than 30, opening the bowling positions 1-2)

NW Kulasekara (SL) 42 @ 18.23 Econ 3.96
SE Bond (NZ) 33 @ 19.66 Econ 3.98
PJ Ongondo (Ken) 37 @ 19.86 Econ 4.17
KD Mills (NZ) 48 @ 22.60 Econ 4.62
Umar Gul (Pak) 37 @ 23.32 Econ 4.93
NW Bracken (Aus) 66 @ 23.62 Econ 4.29
SL Malinga (SL) 44 @ 24.38 Econ 4.87
B Lee (Aus) 48 @ 25.60 Econ 4.81
Sohail Tanvir (Pak) 40 @ 28.02 Econ 5.00
RP Singh (Ind) 32 @ 28.28 Econ 5.43
DBL Powell (WI) 58 @ 29.51 Econ 4.86

Now if remove matches against the minnows we are left with 5 opening bowlers:

NW Bracken (Aus) 60 @ 23.93 Econ 4.36
B Lee (Aus) 48 @ 25.60 Econ 4.81
KD Mills (NZ) 33 @ 27.48 Econ 4.92
SL Malinga (SL) 34 @ 29.32 Econ 5.16
M Ntini (SA) 38 @ 29.97 Econ 5.13

Mills is easily up there (I did not say he was the best opening bowler in the world, merely one of the finest). And there are your stats to prove it.

So in other words MendisSLsBiggestEmbarrasmentNotFitToNameHimselfAfterMendis can go play hide and go **** himself.

SL=gun. That poster=****.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

So in other words MendisSLsBiggestEmbarrasmentNotFitToNameHimselfAfterMendis can go play hide and go **** himself.

SL=gun. That poster=****.

*cough*

 

[Flem274*]

*cough*

Is that an odd way of calling MendisNuffSaid a tosser or a guy who likes to use his wrists on a certain body part?

 

[Athlai]

So in other words MendisSLsBiggestEmbarrasmentNotFitToNameHimselfAfterMendis can go play hide and go **** himself.

SL=gun. That poster=****.

Pretty accurate translation.

 

[Trigger_Tiger]

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Saffies ALL the way!