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What is your ultimate 4 man pace attack in Tests of all time?

bagapath

International Captain
Waqar was much more aggressive than above and was pacier too. Ditto, Imran albeit lesser pace.
Marshall - Pace
Hadlee - Swing
Garner - accuracy
Lillee - aggression

Cant see Waqar replacing any of them
Imran can!
 

Migara

International Coach
Marshall - Pace
Hadlee - Swing
Garner - accuracy
Lillee - aggression

Cant see Waqar replacing any of them
Imran can!
Waqar can replace Lillee every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Waqar had teh agression and he was aggressive everywhere in the world, on slow or fast wickets alike.
 

271 & 16/166

School Boy/Girl Captain
Waqar can replace Lillee every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Waqar had teh agression and he was aggressive everywhere in the world, on slow or fast wickets alike.
I'm guessing you weren't even alive in the 70s so completely deriding Lillee is just stupid, Lillee was the best fast bowler of his era and would at least match all fast bowlers since
 

Migara

International Coach
I'm guessing you weren't even alive in the 70s so completely deriding Lillee is just stupid, Lillee was the best fast bowler of his era and would at least match all fast bowlers since
If Lillee was the best fast bowler of the era, then Jadeja is the best spinner of this era. We had this discussion many times, and it is very difficult to hide that Lillee was incompetent on slower wickets in Asia and West Indies.
 

bagapath

International Captain
If Lillee was the best fast bowler of the era, then Jadeja is the best spinner of this era. We had this discussion many times, and it is very difficult to hide that Lillee was incompetent on slower wickets in Asia and West Indies.
Well, you might have had that discussion many times with many people. And may want to repeat it many more times in the future too. But it wont change the reality.

I remember you claiming Salim Malik was a better player of the West Indies pace battery than Allan Lamb based on batting average (with Lamb scoring 6 centuries and Malik scoring 1 against them). Obviously you didn't get to see Lillee. And you will choose to repeat whatever you've said here with some spreadsheets for support. I will file this Waqar > Lille opinion down the same Malik > Lamb versus Windies box and lock it up forever.
 

Red

The normal awards that everyone else has
Marshall and McGrath with the new pill.

Garner and Wasim with the old one. Perfect.
 

Migara

International Coach
Well, you might have had that discussion many times with many people. And may want to repeat it many more times in the future too. But it wont change the reality.

I remember you claiming Salim Malik was a better player of the West Indies pace battery than Allan Lamb based on batting average (with Lamb scoring 6 centuries and Malik scoring 1 against them). Obviously you didn't get to see Lillee. And you will choose to repeat whatever you've said here with some spreadsheets for support. I will file this Waqar > Lille opinion down the same Malik > Lamb versus Windies box and lock it up forever.
Subjective opinions suck. This would be etched as one of the examples.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
If Lillee was the best fast bowler of the era, then Jadeja is the best spinner of this era. We had this discussion many times, and it is very difficult to hide that Lillee was incompetent on slower wickets in Asia and West Indies.
You can be incompetent based on 4 or 5 tests. Unproven yes.
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
While waqar was something else, garner was the something. Garner ****ed you up so you were mentally gone and physically sore. Just the most awkward delivery ever.
 

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