What is your best non-ATG XI?

[Coronis]

Then I would put in Root, Dravid and Walsh in those places.

I thought your ATG criteria was “in the conversation for a spot in your ATG XI”

 

[Johan]

Graham Gooch
Bruce Mitchell
Clem Hill
Martin Crowe
Clive Lloyd*
AB De Villiers+
Wilfred Rhodes
Ravindra Jadeja
Pat Cummins
Jim Laker
Alec Bedser

 

[Coronis]

Graham Gooch
Bruce Mitchell
Clem Hill
Martin Crowe
Clive Lloyd
AB De Villiers
Frank Woolley
Ravindra Jadeja
Pat Cummins
Jim Laker
Alec Bedser

Woolley really?

 

[Johan]

Woolley really?

changed it

 

[vidiq]

Pat Cummins is a ATG , many count him in Their all time aus test xi.

 

[subshakerz]

I thought your ATG criteria was “in the conversation for a spot in your ATG XI”

Yeah none of those guys are.

 

[Coronis]

Yeah none of those guys are.

I would have thought there’d be a few others who aren’t in your conversation.

 

[subshakerz]

I would have thought there’d be a few others who aren’t in your conversation.

Well Pollock as a bowler but then he may be a ATG AR. Holding, Cummins, and Garner are borderline cases for me so hard to decide.

On second thought I may have Davidson in this XI.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

I am not sure if Greenidge is ATG.

No.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Non atg XI:

Boycott
G Smith
Weekes
Kanhai
Kohli
Worrell*
Ames+
Davidson
Underwood
Garner
Holding

Upon further review maybe my criteria for atg was too harsh i now consider the following atg but A tier as opposed to S tier:

Aus: Ponting, Border, S Waugh, Lindwall, Miller
WI: Walcott
SL: Sangakkara
Ind: Dravid
RSA: Pollock S
Eng: Botham (sheer numbers), Laker, Verity

Current players not included.

 

[Johan]

I think Weekes should be with Walcott, he was considered the best of them.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

I think Weekes should be with Walcott, he was considered the best of them.

Walcott separates himself imo, due to back to back atg series vs two atg bowling attacks.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

There are way too many ATGs in these teams

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Boycott
Greenidge
G Smith
Amla
Kanhai
Lloyd
Flower
Shakib
Roberts
Hazlewood
Gillespie

 

[Johan]

Graham Gooch
Bruce Mitchell
Clem Hill
Martin Crowe
Clive Lloyd
AB De Villiers
Wilfred Rhodes
Ravindra Jadeja
Pat Cummins
Jim Laker
Alec Bedser

second XI

Greenidge
Simpson
Kanhai
Kohli
Flower
Dexter*
Ames+
Ashwin
Gibbs
Statham
Rabada

 

[capt_Luffy]

I think I will exclude my tier 3 batsmen and bowlers for now.

Gordon Greenidge
Graeme Smith*
Colin Cowdrey
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Denis Lindsay+
Vinoo Mankad
Hugh Trumble
Jason Gillespie
Neil Wagner
Shoaib Akhtar

 

[Johan]

I think I will exclude my tier 3 batsmen and bowlers for now.

Gordon Greenidge
Graeme Smith*
Colin Cowdrey
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Denis Lindsay+
Vinoo Mankad
Hugh Trumble
Jason Gillespie
Neil Wagner
Shoaib Akhtar

decent team but you included Chanderpaul, therefore they'd lose to current England team

 

[TheJediBrah]

Gary Kirsten
Trescothick
Stephen Fleming
Laxman
Ross Taylor
Shakib
Watling (wk)
Streak
Ashwin
Damien Fleming
Jimmy Anderson

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Barry Richards
Herbert Sutcliffe
Clem Hill
Steve Smith
Graeme Pollock
Allan Border
Don Tallon
Ravi Ashwin
Vernon Philander
Alan Davidson
Harold Larwood

 

[Coronis]

Barry Richards
Herbert Sutcliffe
Clem Hill
Steve Smith
Graeme Pollock
Allan Border
Don Tallon
Ravi Ashwin
Vernon Philander
Alan Davidson
Harold Larwood

You’re an exclusive one, aren’t you?