_00_deathscar
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I'd take Thakur over Saini depending on who the other 2 are especially. More likely to bowl you a match winning spell. Not like Saini doesn't bowl trash either.
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What is first choice India fast bowling attack?
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honestbharani
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Thakur is like Jadeja... Those who are critical can never bring themselves to agree he is actually good. 
I like the fact that both India and Pak successes in most recent games has shown that FC performances matter.
I like the fact that both India and Pak successes in most recent games has shown that FC performances matter.
Arachnodouche
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Think there has to be some kind of reward for the guys who won us the Gabba Test by keeping them in close contention for a spot. Strongly believe you maximize a player's potential by giving him some incentive to keep improving. Sundar's time will inevitably come but Thakur's already 29. Admittedly I didn't think much of him before that game either, but you can't ignore that sort of effort and there's no doubting his will to scrap. The best way forward would be to rotate him with Pandya. Gives us more options, saves Pandya's back, win-win all around.
harsh.ag
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He's already done something else of note
_00_deathscar
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Based on what we saw at the Gabba, looks to be the other way around. Has anyone seen him in FC? There is no way the guy can bat like that and only averages 16 in FC games without giving a **** or something.
It's the technique etc more than anything else - it wasn't like he hacked his way to his score or got incredibly lucky.
Daemon
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Both bowled a fair bit of trash tbh. At least Thakur moves the ball in the air though while Saini is gun barrel straight, doesn’t bowl a wicket taking length and is not very accurate.
Thakur’s also more of a scrappy angry little man as well so maybe he can get wickets through sheer willpower.
That and the batting makes it fairly straightforward for me.
Thakur’s also more of a scrappy angry little man as well so maybe he can get wickets through sheer willpower.
That and the batting makes it fairly straightforward for me.
honestbharani
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Thakur bowls bad balls looking to bowl the magic ball but otherwise he gets the ball to move both ways (swing as well as seam) at 135-140 kph. Saini just bowls gun barrel straight at 140-145 kph and its really not quick enough for one to be doing that. Saini may well improve and B Arun has worked wonders with others whom I thought were similar, esp. Umesh so you never know.
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Agree with all this but I think its probably a bit harsh on Saini sinne he was unfit for the majority of the time we saw him.
honestbharani
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Both him and Natarajan will always be in the mix by virtue of playing the white ball cricket for India, I feel.
Daemon
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I haven't seen him get any swing in LO cricket, the warm up games as well as the Sydney Test (ignoring the Gabba Test because he was injured). You don't need to be in good rhythm to get a hint of movement if it's something you can do regularly.
Like hb says this may yet change with proper guidance ofc. Ishant didn't learn to swing the ball effectively till pretty late.
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I remember seeing Ishant bowl big hooping inswingers in his second Test, way back in 2007. I think a lot of his issues stemmed from his desire to bowl outswing as well, which messed with his natural wrist position enough to make him lose his swing entirely for years.
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Haha yeah, that's why I put in the word 'effectively'. He admitted to trying to copy Zak and moving the ball both ways around 2010-11 or so which messed him up.
honestbharani
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Its also how Irfan lost his swing.
cnerd123
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You can see him get a bit of swing and seam movement here
He doesn't get mad h00p, but he moves it enough to be a threat at his pace. Can get some reverse too. Not sure if this is something he does regularly or if it happens occasionally. I'm sure I've seen him move some in his early India LO appearances as well. This Aus tour is the first time I've seen him be gun barrel straight, but it's also the first time I've seen a significant amount of him bowling in red ball cricket.
Not sure if he's worth persisting with. He's 28 now and pretty low down in the pecking order. Red ball is his strongest format, but there is no Ranji cricket for him to go back and play in till covid is sorted either.