What are the odds that Babar, Shaheen and Rizwan enter the Pakistan ATG Test XI by the end of their careers?

[Xuhaib]

Regarding Babar i struggle to see how he gets in over Inzi, Miandad, YK unless you pick him as a 6th batsman.
He would most likely end up playing 80-90 tests at the maximum and needs a final career record in G. Chappell range to make a case to be in 3-4-5 slots.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Waqar's 4 year peak in which he was great against WI and Australia is better than Croft's entire career, Botham's peak years as well as Kapil's best.

Not to mention Waqar in his decline was probably still better than Kapil for was for most of his career tbh. Botham after his peak was genuinely awful.

 

[subshakerz]

Regarding Babar i struggle to see how he gets in over Inzi, Miandad, YK unless you pick him as a 6th batsman.
He would most likely end up playing 80-90 tests at the maximum and needs a final career record in G. Chappell range to make a case to be in 3-4-5 slots.

Frankly, Babar like Kohli, simply seems to me to be in a superior class of batsman than Inzi in terms of talent. 80 tests with a good record, especially in Aus and SA, would be enough for me to rate him ahead of Inzi.

 

[Xuhaib]

Yes Babar looks good to watch but he needs to rack in some huge numbers to displace Inzi.

MoYo with simlar numbers to G. Chappell but with a less balanced home and away record is unable to so Bobby needs similar numbers to Mo Yo but with more balanced home and away.

 

[Xuhaib]

He can be better than Waqar with the new ball though. And he is a great learner.

Yes Shaheen to his credit has a decent learning curve. When he started apart from his physical attributes nothing really stood out unlike Amir 1.0 who screamed once in a generation prospect.

Shaheen has gradually got better and better as he played, i hope he returns well from this injury.

 

[subshakerz]

Not to mention Waqar in his decline was probably still better than Kapil for was for most of his career tbh. Botham after his peak was genuinely awful.

Post - peak Waqar still averaged 26.

 

[Daemon]

Waqar is way ahead of Kapil

 

[Prince EWS]

Waqar is way ahead of Kapil

Looking forward to the Waqar vs Thakur debate next.

 

[honestbharani]

Looking forward to the Waqar vs Thakur debate next.

Performances at the Gabba is what counts ultimately.

 

[subshakerz]

Looks like Shaheen and Babar are out of the conversation. Only Rizwan has confirmed his place.

 

[ankitj]

Shaheen has zero chance. How is he going to go past Akhtar and Mahmood, let alone the big 3?

 

[sayon basak]

Rizwan has already made it in. And Miandad/Younis/Inzamam is making it hard for even Yousuf, and Babar has no chance (negative I'd say) of surpassing Yousuf.





Shaheen is definitely making it above Akram tho.

 

[Thala_0710]

Rizwan is in. Saud has the best chance of making it in from the rest

 

[Randomfan]

Not to mention Waqar in his decline was probably still better than Kapil for was for most of his career tbh. Botham after his peak was genuinely awful.

Have you seen any pacer playing 40-50 tests with 1 5-fers against non-minnows?

Waqar after injury

 

[Randomfan]

Rizwan can make his case.

Babar is useless outside. He has like 1-2 tons so far.

Shaheen is going for shorter formats and he can't make a case.

 

[Randomfan]

Babar looked like some one who could have gone to that level. Never kicked on in the test format.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Frankly, Babar like Kohli, simply seems to me to be in a superior class of batsman than Inzi in terms of talent. 80 tests with a good record, especially in Aus and SA, would be enough for me to rate him ahead of Inzi.

Sadly both Kohli and Babar have underachieved

 

[nightprowler10]

Sadly both Kohli and Babar have underachieved

Can't mention these two in the same sentence. Babar never even really got going in Tests. You could argue he still has time to kick on though.

 

[subshakerz]

Sadly both Kohli and Babar have underachieved

Kohli got to a peak at least.

 

[subshakerz]

Have you seen any pacer playing 40-50 tests with 1 5-fers against non-minnows?

Waqar after injury

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That include quality tours of England and SA.