kyear2
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That was crazy, a clear line of succession but how did they manage to have no overlap.
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What are the five strongest batting lineups who ever played?
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kyear2
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The only such game was Ames’s debut. Woolley, Wyatt, Leyland and Carr were the other batters.
a massive zebra
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The inclusion of Wyatt and Carr make that team a worse batting side than the 1928/29 side I identified, IMO.
centurymaker
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Smith
Elgar
Amla
Kallis
ABD
Faf
De Kock
Elgar
Amla
Kallis
ABD
Faf
De Kock
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Did those 7 play together? Very strong one
Fuller Pilch
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Nah. Kallis retired in 2013 and QDK debuted in 2014.
Would need an Alviro Peterson or JP Duminy somewhere in the top 7. Also Ashwell Prince (better than QDK and Faf) retired in 2011.
Would need an Alviro Peterson or JP Duminy somewhere in the top 7. Also Ashwell Prince (better than QDK and Faf) retired in 2011.
Prince EWS
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I think they did a bit, but I'm not sure if Amla was still in his prime. That except Alviro in for Elgar was the lineup for a bit longer.
If Amla was firing when they lined up that way then it's very similar to Ponting era Australia's in heaps of ways.
Smith and Hayden are really similar in style and output, so are Elgar and Langer. 3/ 4 of a pair of right handers - an ATG run machine and an elegant ATVG bat (even if swapped around in order in each of the two sides), a right handed ATVG at 5, a late bloomer who took to Tests like a duck to water at 6, and then an aggressive LH WKB at 7 who almost seems like a cheat code after getting through the epic top order.
Ponting's batting lineup was better, I think mostly because Elgar and QDK were just discount versions of Langer and Gilchrist, but still very very good.
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Ah yeah you're right. I was thinking about Faf debut but de Kock debut was more relevant.
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de Villiers was still keeping when Faf debuted, so the actual lineup around that time was something like:
1. Smith
2. Alviro
3. Amla
4. Kallis
5. de Villiers+
6. Faf
7. Duminy
Still right up there, but not quite as good as the Elgar and de Kock fantasy version posted above.
a massive zebra
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Collie Smith died from injuries sustained in a car accident in 1959 at the age of 26.
From Wikipedia:
The accident happened at 4:45am on 7 September, while he was travelling with his West Indian teammates Garry Sobers and Tom Dewdney. They were driving to London to attend a charity match, Sobers being the driver. The trip had already been delayed because of the traffic. The car ran into a 10-ton cattle truck driven by a Mr. Andrew Saunders. The accident happened on the A34 near Stone in Staffordshire.
Smith was sleeping in the back seat and was thrown forward. His injuries seemed minor initially and Smith even told Sobers, in reference to Dewdney, "Don't worry about me. Look after the big fellow." But his spine was injured badly and he soon went into a coma. He died without regaining consciousness three days later. His body was taken to Jamaica, where 60,000 people attended the funeral. His tombstone in Jamaica's May Pen Cemetery is engraved: "Keen Cricketer, Unselfish Friend, Worthy Hero, Loyal Disciple, Happy Warrior." Sobers and Dewdney were not seriously injured, suffering lacerations and bruises.
Sobers was issued with a notice of intended prosecution. Sobers pleaded not guilty, claiming that he had been dazzled by oncoming headlights. On 11 November at Stone Magistrates' Court, Sobers was found guilty of careless driving. The prosecutor said that Sobers had failed to take a bend and was in collision with a cattle truck travelling in the opposite direction. Sobers was fined £10 with £16 17s costs and had his licence suspended for a month.
capt_Luffy
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Would add a few more teams here:England 1928-29
AUS vs ENG Cricket Scorecard, 1st Test at Brisbane, November 30 - December 05, 1928
Get cricket scorecard of 1st Test, AUS vs ENG, England tour of Australia 1928/29 at Exhibition Ground, Brisbane dated November 30 - December 05, 1928.www.espncricinfo.com
This side has three ATG batsmen (Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond), three others with Test averages over 47 (Mead, Jardine, Hendren), another frontline batsman (Chapman) and a bowling allrounder (Tate).
Australia 1948
AUS vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 4th Test at Adelaide, January 23 - 28, 1948
Get cricket scorecard of 4th Test, AUS vs IND, India tour of Australia 1947/48 at Adelaide Oval dated January 23 - 28, 1948.
One of Australia's best ever openers (Morris), a 63 averaging opener (Barnes), the greatest batsman (Bradman), one of Australia's greatest middle order batsmen (Harvey), a leading batsman of the time (Hassett) and an ATG allrounder (Miller).
England 1954-55
AUS vs ENG Cricket Scorecard, 5th Test at Sydney, February 25 - March 03, 1955
Get cricket scorecard of 5th Test, AUS vs ENG, England tour of Australia 1954/55 at Sydney Cricket Ground dated February 25 - March 03, 1955.
Two ATG batsmen (Hutton & Compton), a world class batsman (May), two top class and incredibly promising young players (Graveney & Cowdrey) and a quality allrounder (Bailey)
South Africa 1969-70
SA vs AUS, Australia tour of South Africa 1969/70, 3rd Test at Johannesburg, February 19 - 24, 1970 - Full Scorecard
Get cricket scorecard of 3rd Test, SA vs AUS, Australia tour of South Africa 1969/70 at New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg dated February 19 - 24, 1970.
This side has two ATG batsmen (Richards and Pollock), another world class batsman (Barlow) and possibly the best batting depth ever with Lindsay at 8 and Procter at 9.
West Indies 1979-80
AUS vs WI Cricket Scorecard, 3rd Test at Adelaide, January 26 - 30, 1980
Get cricket scorecard of 3rd Test, AUS vs WI, West Indies tour of Australia 1979/80 at Adelaide Oval dated January 26 - 30, 1980.
The classic opening pair (Greenidge & Haynes), one of their greatest batsmen (Richards) and a top quality middle order (Kallicharran, Rowe, Lloyd).
Australia 2003-04
AUS vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 3rd Test at Melbourne, December 26 - 30, 2003
Get cricket scorecard of 3rd Test, AUS vs IND, India tour of Australia 2003/04 at Melbourne Cricket Ground dated December 26 - 30, 2003.
One of Australia's greatest opening pairs (Langer & Hayden), two ATG batsmen (Ponting and S Waugh), a couple of quality middle order players (Martyn & M Waugh) and arguably the greatest wicketkeeper batsman (Gilchrist).
India 2008-09
IND vs AUS Cricket Scorecard, 3rd Test at Delhi, October 29 - November 02, 2008
Get cricket scorecard of 3rd Test, IND vs AUS, Australia tour of India 2008/09 at Feroz Shah Kotla, Delhi dated October 29 - November 02, 2008.
India's most destructive opener (Sehwag), a quality opener in the form of his life (Gambhir), two ATG batsmen (Dravid & Tendulkar), a world class batsman (Laxman), another quality batsman (Ganguly) and a world class wicketkeeper batsman (Dhoni).
England 1938-40
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-australia-5th-test-62652/live-cricket-score
Three ATGs (Hutton, Hammond and Compton), three ATVGs (Paynter, Leyland, Hardstaff), and an opener averaging 55+ (Edrich); with a keeper and bowler averaging 20+ (Wood and Verity)
West Indies 1957-60
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...west-indies-1st-test-62825/live-cricket-score
Five ATGs (Sobers, Weekes, Walcott, Worrell, Kanhai), three batting Allrounders (Smith, Atkinson, Goddard) and a frontline batsman (Paradeu)
England 2010-12
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-australia-2010-11-428730/australia-vs-england-2nd-test-428750/live-cricket-score
Top 7 everyone averaging above 40 (Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Collingwood, Prior).
Australia 1980-81
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-australia-1980-81-62293/australia-vs-india-3rd-test-63281/live-cricket-score
Two ATGs (Chappell and Border), one ATVG (Walter), a world class player (Hughes), two decent openers (Dyson and Wood) and a good keeper (Marsh)
Australia 1988-90
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/west-indies-tour-of-australia-1988-89-61901/australia-vs-west-indies-4th-test-63499/live-cricket-score
Two ATGs (Border and Waugh), three ATVGs (Boon, Taylor, Jones), another solid opener (Marsh) and a decent keeper batter (Healy)
West Indies 1993-94
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-vs-england-2nd-test-63638/live-cricket-score
Two ATGs (Lara and Chanderpaul), two ATVGs (Richardson and Haynes), a solid batsman (Adams), another frontline batsman (Arthurton) and a decent keeper bat (Murray)
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