Point is he was a flop on slow wickets. Even couldn't blast away minnow Sri Lanka team and average 35 against them.Lillee took 55 Wickets @25.35 against West Indies in Australia.
Lillee in West Indies during WSC: 23 wickets in 5 games @ 28.3, 1 5fer against Greenidge/Haynes/Viv/LloydFredericks.You mean like having no average?
In Australia. In WI he had one bad test and one WSC series where he did good but not great.Lillee took 55 Wickets @25.35 against West Indies in Australia.
Include the other test in 73 too. I think his average goes above 30.Lillee in West Indies during WSC: 23 wickets in 5 games @ 28.3, 46SR, 1 5fer against Greenidge/Haynes/Viv/LloydFredericks
Last time I checked WSC are not tests.Lillee in West Indies during WSC: 23 wickets in 5 games @ 28.3, 46SR, 1 5fer against Greenidge/Haynes/Viv/LloydFredericks
last time I checked they were played in the tests format and had all the superstars of world cricket.Last time I checked WSC are not tests.
I’m sure they all played for a club.Roberts and Holding and Garner and Imran and Hadlee were not club bowlers.
Still not tests. No one include the SAF-India banned 3rd test, although it was played in test format.last time I checked they were played in the tests format and had all the superstars of world cricket.
but I'm sure the pitches were altered to help Lillee in Windies, lol.
1979 West Indies won their first test series in Australia. Before that they never won a series in Australia. So England was always their main rival.West Indies hammered Australia in 1979 and became number one in tests. They were in the ascendency since 1975/6 tour
If we're declaring Lillee in windies a failiure on the basis of one bad test in 73 in a runfest draw over his very good performance against ATG batting in 79 then we've a problem with the systemInclude the other test in 73 too. I think his average goes above 30.
79 was a home series mate.If we're declaring Lillee in windies a failiure on the basis of one bad test in 73 in a runfest draw over his very good performance against ATG batting in 79 then we've a problem with the system
Wasim in England is also not a failure.If we're declaring Lillee in windies a failiure on the basis of one bad test in 73 in a runfest draw over his very good performance against ATG batting in 79 then we've a problem with the system
as long as you can make a case for it being as high level as test Cricket, go for itStill not tests. No one include the SAF-India banned 3rd test, although it was played in test format.
the WSC series was in West Indies, Lillee proved himself there against an absolute ATG batting attack, deal with it.79 was a home series mate.
Lillee sucked on slower wickets. Deal with it.
Debatable. Especially when the pride of playing for the nation is taken away, they no longer is test standard.as long as you can make a case for it being as high level as test Cricket, go for it
never said it's much better, I'm just saying there seems to be some awkward hypocrisy here, if Sri Lanka is a hole for Lillee, so is South Africa for Wasim. If West Indies is a hole for Lillee, so is England for Wasim.Wasim in England is also not a failure.
But 23 wickets in 6 tests @30 odd isn't much better.
Was that the 1969 tour, 2 years before he debuted, or the 1979 tour when he was banned to play for Australia due WSC, or the 1986 tour 2 years after he retired. There were no other tours to India between 1965 and 1995He was concerned of diarrhea and did not tour India, which was one of the graveyards of fast bowling.
his WSC tests were Australia XI vs West Indies XI, doubt there were any "pride issues"Debatable. Especially when the pride of playing for the nation is taken away, they no longer is test standard.
Lillee still doesn't have a reasonable sample in the entire SC.never said it's much better, I'm just saying there seems to be some awkward hypocrisy here, if Sri Lanka is a hole for Lillee, so is South Africa for Wasim. If West Indies is a hole for Lillee, so is England for Wasim.