Warne Vs Murali

[Baggygreen]

This should make interesting reading, I'm saying Warne for obvious reasons but please lets keep this to purely on field performances.

I am picking Warne for the simple fact that if Warne had played all of his home tests on the dustbowls of Sri Lanka he would have 700+ test wickets by now.


Here is an Interesting fact:

Warne and Murali VS Zimbabwe and Bangladesh:

Warne 1 test 6 wickets @ 22.83
Murali 16 tests 107 wickets @ 15.66

Overall records:

Warne 110 tests, 30,884 balls, 517 wkts @ 25.43
Murali 90 tests, 30,725 balls, 527 Wkts @ 22.77


Draw your own conclusions and make a vote and have a say

 

[a massive zebra]

This should make interesting reading, I'm saying Warne for obvious reasons but please lets keep this to purely on field performances.

I am picking Warne for the simple fact that if Warne had played all of his home tests on the dustbowls of Sri Lanka he would have 700+ test wickets by now.


Here is an Interesting fact:

Warne and Murali VS Zimbabwe and Bangladesh:

Warne 1 test 6 wickets @ 22.83
Murali 16 tests 107 wickets @ 15.66

Overall records:

Warne 110 tests, 30,884 balls, 517 wkts @ 25.43
Murali 90 tests, 30,725 balls, 527 Wkts @ 22.77


Draw your own conclusions and make a vote and have a say

Everyone here knows my views on this and a while ago we had this vote on the frontpage. I think Murali got 46%, Warne got 40% and 14% couldn't seperate them. The voting was far from one sided but Murali definitely won.

Murali vs India 637 1680 51 8/87 32.94 2.63 74.9 3 1
Warne vs India 514.1 1608 29 4/47 55.44 3.12 106.3 0 0

including:

45 7 150 1 3.33 3rd Test v Ind in Aus 1991/92 at Sydney
30 7 122 1 4.07 1st Test v Ind in Ind 1997/98 at Chennai
42 4 147 0 3.50 2nd Test v Ind in Ind 1997/98 at Kolkata
13 1 60 0 4.62 3rd Test v Ind in Aus 1999/00 at Sydney
34 3 152 1 4.47 2nd Test v Ind in Ind 2000/01 at Kolkata

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6974

 

[Sudeep]

As Neil would say, been there done that.

 

[JASON]

I simply cannot separate them (on performance alone).

 

[tooextracool]

i think its time to lock this thread before it becomes another flame war.

 

[Baggygreen]

I ask how many wickets would Warne have if he played all of his home tests on the dustbowls of Sri Lanka???, I see you failed to add that to your list of 16 reasons.

 

[a massive zebra]

I ask how many wickets would Warne have if he played all of his home tests on the dustbowls of Sri Lanka???, I see you failed to add that to your list of 16 reasons.

And what would Warne's strike rate and average be like if he had no support from the other bowlers?

 

[PY]

BaggyGreen : Welcome to CW mate.

Please do stick around even after what I say. I'm afraid we have had this same argument about 15 times in the last 6 months and about 30+ since I joined. Unfortunately they usually end up as a slanging match and are therefore closed.

With this in mind, I can't see this thread hanging around for long.

 

[tooextracool]

And what would Warne's strike rate and average be like if he had no support from the other bowlers?

alot better you might say....more support means those other bowlers would be just about as likely to get the wickets that warne could have had.

 

[a massive zebra]

alot better you might say....more support means those other bowlers would be just about as likely to get the wickets that warne could have had.

You obviously don't understand.

If Warne was of equal ability to Murali he would take less wickets per match than Murali (because there are four good bowlers competing for wickets), but would have a lower average and strike rate (because of the pressure brought on by the other bowlers). Murali takes more wickets per match and has a lower average and strike rate.

For another example of this look at Marshall vs Hadlee. Both wonderful bowlers, with Marshall having a better average and strike rate because he played in a better team and Hadlee taking more wickets because there was less competition for them.

 

[tooextracool]

You obviously don't understand.

right since we've had this discussion on countless occasions and on each of those occasions no one has been able to see the other person's viewpoint there is clearly no point in having this discussion again.....where is pickup when you need him???

 

[marc71178]

As Neil would say, been there done that.

Before (usually) closing the thread!

 

[Scallywag]

Warnie is definately a go to man, when the heat is on he has won many games for Australia. In ODI's he has excelled in big games and inspires the team more than any other spin bowler.

Murali is also a go to man and wins many games off his own bowling. In ODI's he is a matchwinner but just doesent find a higher level for big games.

Remember thats from the cricket I've watched and I don't get to see much of Sri Lanka V Ban, Zim and Ind.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Aaaargh...