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Warne in the Ashes
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BingLeeElectric
Banned
Warne, naturally.Perm said:
Infact, Pietersens pants looks like the Hershey Highway as we speak.
Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Pietersen leads Warne 2-1 atm. Warne may have a little edge after getting him in the 2nd innings. Bowlers usually always get the last laugh.Perm said:
Hayden_29437
Cricket Spectator
Warne always gets wickets and the english struggle to play him (except KP) so i think the next 3 tests will bring 25 more wickets
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
tooextracool said:
Warne's been inbetween good and very good this Ashes series, but definitely not great like in 1993, 2001 and the incredible 2005 year. What I will say though, is that while he hasn't been great, I don't think I've seen a bowler with as much bad luck as Shane Warne this series.
Ian Bell looks absolutely clueless, and while I enjoy his more confrontational manner against Warne, he still has moments when Warne has him tied in knots. There hasn't been a significent Bell score made without Warne beating the edge about 10 times. In one innings he beat the edge about four times in one over - all close. It was an example of complete mastery of the batsman, but without a wicket.
Paul Collingwood was much the same in making his double hundred. While Beefy said it was a flawless innings, it really was a tremendous innings with a bit of luck. Warne beat him on many, many occasions, and yet no reward for whatsoever.
Warne this series has been an example of absolute mastery of his art, with all his subtleties, and while he's been a bit loose at times, he's had most batsmen in knots. Even against Kevin Pietersen he's beaten him a few times. I have their rivalry at 2-1 Pietersen, since at Brisbane they hardly met in the first innings, and in the second Pietersen was fantastic. He was the same in the first innings at Adelaide, but was bowled in the second innings. You could call it either way for the first innings at the WACCA since McGrath dropped him off Warne, but then Pietersen took control and hit a six. So it could be 3-1 or 2-2. Currently I saw Warne keep Pietersen quiet and beat him a few times in the current second innings.
This isn't even delving into the amount of close misses Cook had. I thought he was clearly out lbw early on, and had a close lbw call later on as well when the ball hit his back leg (but it wasn't out IMO). Warne was nearly tearing his hair out with all the close misses.
But yeah, he's been bowling very well without any reward. One of the rare moments in all my years of watching a cricket that I've seen a bowler with such little reward for such hard toil. One could easily look at his stats and say he's out of form, while in reality he turned the series on its head at Adelaide.
But as someone who can respect greatness when he sees it, I gotta say Warne's also been annoying me more than ever lately. We already know of his excessive appealing, but even his back-chat to the bowlers is annoying. This whole aura of arrogance and disrespect toward the batsman is pretty poor. If he could have controlled his behavious more he'd have almost an unrivalled legacy in the history of cricket.
Ian Bell looks absolutely clueless, and while I enjoy his more confrontational manner against Warne, he still has moments when Warne has him tied in knots. There hasn't been a significent Bell score made without Warne beating the edge about 10 times. In one innings he beat the edge about four times in one over - all close. It was an example of complete mastery of the batsman, but without a wicket.
Paul Collingwood was much the same in making his double hundred. While Beefy said it was a flawless innings, it really was a tremendous innings with a bit of luck. Warne beat him on many, many occasions, and yet no reward for whatsoever.
Warne this series has been an example of absolute mastery of his art, with all his subtleties, and while he's been a bit loose at times, he's had most batsmen in knots. Even against Kevin Pietersen he's beaten him a few times. I have their rivalry at 2-1 Pietersen, since at Brisbane they hardly met in the first innings, and in the second Pietersen was fantastic. He was the same in the first innings at Adelaide, but was bowled in the second innings. You could call it either way for the first innings at the WACCA since McGrath dropped him off Warne, but then Pietersen took control and hit a six. So it could be 3-1 or 2-2. Currently I saw Warne keep Pietersen quiet and beat him a few times in the current second innings.
This isn't even delving into the amount of close misses Cook had. I thought he was clearly out lbw early on, and had a close lbw call later on as well when the ball hit his back leg (but it wasn't out IMO). Warne was nearly tearing his hair out with all the close misses.
But yeah, he's been bowling very well without any reward. One of the rare moments in all my years of watching a cricket that I've seen a bowler with such little reward for such hard toil. One could easily look at his stats and say he's out of form, while in reality he turned the series on its head at Adelaide.
But as someone who can respect greatness when he sees it, I gotta say Warne's also been annoying me more than ever lately. We already know of his excessive appealing, but even his back-chat to the bowlers is annoying. This whole aura of arrogance and disrespect toward the batsman is pretty poor. If he could have controlled his behavious more he'd have almost an unrivalled legacy in the history of cricket.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
Even when you have a genius like Lara or Tendulkar, when you're playing against Warne, you will have at least one chance or piece of luck, it's how good the bloke is.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Ahh true my friend, but it could take away his very gift.Francis said:
I agree with the rest of your post and welcome you back
. Both Cook and Bell looked so shaky, yet turned in good scores (Cook a century). There was one over I recall specifically and Warne got hit for 12, 3 4's but Bell almost got out the other 3 balls off nicks, and one of his 4's just went over Symonds. Cook looked like he was going to get out every ball before his century. As you said, the stats just won't show how great Warne was this match.