Waqar Younis vs James Anderson

[Johan]

Ponting was averaging like 57 around his 34th birthday

outside of the 2002-2006 stint in the easiest era of batting with Hayden/Langer opening, Ponting averages 41 in general, and his stats against seamers are frankly embarrassing.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

outside of the 2002-2006 stint in the easiest era of batting with Hayden/Langer opening, Ponting averages 41 in general, and his stats against seamers are frankly embarrassing.

What stats against seamers?

 

[sayon basak]

What stats against seamers?

Really?

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Against Australia, 10 wickets from 2 games, Average – 25.8
Against England, 22 wickets from 5 games, Average – 25.3
Against Newzealand – 56 wickets from 7 games, Average – 14.3
Against the West Indies – 35 wickers from 6 games, Average – 19.42
Against Sri Lanka – 30 wickets from 5 games, Average – 17
Against Zimbabwe – 27 wickets from 3 games, Average – 13.8

so even at peak, he was rendered mortal against top teams bar a fading Windies, and then he had 8 years of just being a good bowler even with minnow bashing, honestly Waqar is like Gooch tier, an insane peak but his overall career is meh, and he has ball tampering involved.

I would still say Peak Waqar was the highest level any bowler has ever reached, ever. Not like he failed against any of them really. His Strike rate was insane too, also WPM.

 

[sayon basak]

I would still say Peak Waqar was the highest level any bowler has ever reached, ever. Not like he failed against any of them really. His Strike rate was insane too, also WPM.

What about Barnes tho? Was a pretty great bloke.

 

[Johan]

What stats against seamers?

Ponting against Seamers and Swingers

Morkel – 129 runs with 6 outs, average of 21.5
Philander – 18 runs with 2 outs, average of 9
Roach – 100 runs with 5 outs, average of 20
Steyn – 144 runs with 4 outs, average of 36
Vaas – 51 runs with 3 outs, average of 17

want me to go on or...?

 

[BazBall21]

Waqar's peak was the most destructive but I don't think I'd take him over 1983-1989 Marshall

 

[sayon basak]

want me to go on or...?

That would help your cause.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ponting against Seamers

Morkel – 129 runs with 6 outs, average of 21.5
Philander – 18 runs with 2 outs, average of 9
Roach – 100 runs with 5 outs, average of 20
Steyn – 144 runs with 4 outs, average of 36
Vaas – 51 runs with 3 outs, average of 17

want me to go on or...?

He played most of these guys when he was past his prime. This is poor analysis lol.

 

[Johan]

He played most of these guys when he was past his prime. This is poor analysis lol.

Vaas was 2004 actually, and maybe he got past his prime cuz he didn't have Hayden and Langer to bash the new ball, take the shine off so he can score easy runs, bro used to struggle against Zaheer khan in Australia lol. Also averages 31.3 against Andy Caddick right in his prime.

plus, Gough owned a prime Ponting too.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Ponting too high, Root and Waugh are better.

It included ODIs though as well.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Vaas was 2004 actually, and maybe he got past his prime cuz he didn't have Hayden and Langer to bash the new ball, take the shine off so he can score easy runs, bro used to struggle against Zaheer khan in Australia lol. Also averages 31.3 against Andy Caddick right in his prime.

plus, Gough owned a prime Ponting too.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

What about Barnes tho? Was a pretty great bloke.

Waqar was more destructive. I would have Barnes similar to someone like Murali. Both in the 10 best peaks, arguably top 5.

 

[Johan]

I can’t tell if you’re trolling

why'd you think I'm trolling? it's just a fact that Ponting's numbers against seamers are, uhhhh, questionable

 

[sayon basak]

I can’t tell if you’re trolling

His points are actually quite good, unlike Ponting when the ball moved inches vertically.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Vaas was 2004 actually, and maybe he got past his prime cuz he didn't have Hayden and Langer to bash the new ball, take the shine off so he can score easy runs, bro used to struggle against Zaheer khan in Australia lol. Also averages 31.3 against Andy Caddick right in his prime.

plus, Gough owned a prime Ponting too.

Ponting owned everyone except Harby in India and Bond in ODIs. He was brilliant - perhaps better than Chappell and Steve Smith (& definitely better than Waugh & Root).

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ponting wasn’t great against spin but not rating him as a ATG/great player of pace is a weird take

 

[sayon basak]

Ponting wasn’t great against spin but not rating him as a ATG/great player of pace is a weird take

He was great against express pace and bounce, but that's it.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

He was great against express pace and bounce, but that's it.

He was very good against seam and swing too although not as good as someone like Tendulkar or Smith obviously.

 

[Bolo.]

Ponting against Seamers and Swingers

Morkel – 129 runs with 6 outs, average of 21.5
Philander – 18 runs with 2 outs, average of 9
Roach – 100 runs with 5 outs, average of 20
Steyn – 144 runs with 4 outs, average of 36
Vaas – 51 runs with 3 outs, average of 17

want me to go on or...?

Are these the first names you decided to look up, or did you cherry pick players he did badly against?