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Wally Hammond vs Jacques Kallis

Wally Hammond vs Jacques Kallis

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subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Bolo. said:
A single test in 71 makes no difference to his career record, or how he should be assessed as a player. Keep it or leave it. It's not worth bringing up in the context of either longevity or performances.
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Affects his England record a bit.
 
Johan

Johan

Cricketer Of The Year
Miller had the capability/skill level of a 40 averaging MO Batsmen, one can argue he'd make sides for either his Batting or bowling.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Johan said:
Miller had the capability/skill level of a 40 averaging MO Batsmen, one can argue he'd make sides for either his Batting or bowling.
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Also Botham was definitely a good bat his first career half. I don't think he was just in the side primarily on bowling.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Johan said:
Miller had the capability/skill level of a 40 averaging MO Batsmen, one can argue he'd make sides for either his Batting or bowling.
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subshakerz said:
Also Botham was definitely a good bat his first career half. I don't think he was just in the side primarily on bowling.
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Miller and Botham both were more than capable batsmen, doesn't means it was their primary skill. To classify, they were bowling all-rounders, though more arguable for Miller given his role. If you want someone who can't be termed neither, Aubrey Faulkner is your man.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
capt_Luffy said:
Miller and Botham both were more than capable batsmen, doesn't means it was their primary skill. To classify, they were bowling all-rounders, though more arguable for Miller given his role. If you want someone who can't be termed neither, Aubrey Faulkner is your man.
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Botham was a set no.6 bat his entire career.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
The Sean said:
Just to expand on this with regard the importance and prestige of each exercise, the panel of judges for the ESPN Legends of Cricket ranking was: Ian Chappell, Richie Benaud, Sunil Gavaskar, Dickie Bird, Mike Procter, Michael Holding, Martin Crowe, Wasim Akram, Ian Botham, Allan Border, Sir Richard Hadlee, Christopher Martin Jenkins, Tony Cozier, John Knowles and Robin Marlar.

The jury for the Cricinfo All Time XI (which I stress once again was an entirely different exercise nine years later) was: Ian Chappell, Clive Lloyd, Tony Greig, Duleep Mendis, Ali Bacher, Intikhab Alam, John Wright, Ajit Wadekar, plus four other cricket writers and historians whose names I can’t seem to find but must exist somewhere.

The first, in both timing and prestige, was in absolutely no way the lead up or support act for the second.
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Yes both of them were valid exercises.

What is special though is that Barry made even that top 25.

Twenty Five, yet there's still.comemnts on if he's an ATG.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
subshakerz said:
He will use peer rating to trash Sunny and Imran and then downplay with Qadir when cornered. Nobody should take those arguments seriously.
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So the two of you are running with this lie.

There was no arguments made for Qadir nor that I made for Qadir that rated him highly.

I've responded to you two already, and is it trashing sunny to say that someone was rated ahead of him?

Anyways, knock yourselves out.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
kyear2 said:
So the two of you are running with this lie.

I've responded to you two already, and is it trashing sunny to say that someone was rated ahead of him?

Anyways, knock yourselves out.
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Precisely the kind of framing you criticize others with. Because you want to show Sunny was not that highly rated to make Barry seem better.

You could have just kept it to Barry's rating, but no...
 
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