Johan
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, You're a Root hater, he rates Root afaik.
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Wally Hammond vs Jacques Kallis
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Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Eh. He’s not as bad as a lot of the Poms. e.g Cook, Anderson, Pietersen, Broad, Stokes, Bairstow, Swann.
But he’s still a little bit of a dick. You guys gotta get some cool guys. I miss being able to Root for an English player.
Johan
Cricketer Of The Year
would you like Root if he was a criminal like Barrington?
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There is far more value to having 1-2 great slips than anyone great in any other positions. 3rd slip plus, I don't think it makes that much difference.
This is not just marginal value compared to rubbish. A second slip in particular who can take blinders is a fairly big upgrade on one who can't, in a way that doesn't apply to other positions.
Thala_0710
International Debutant
Kohli is decent in the slips, Smith is great. How much more do you guys think that Smith has added to his cordon than Kohli?
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah we are weighing frequency of a blinder versus the runs saved and somewhat less frequent blinders of a cover/gully. I think folks may underestimate how many runs an excellent ground fielding op saves, and the pressure the build that leads to wickets and run outs.
A top ground fielder saves runs, supports bowlers, takes blinders and gets run outs. I don't think we should just say slips are most important.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
The answer here is really a no of blinders; because both drops way too many sitters.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Johan
Cricketer Of The Year
what? did you not know Barrington's story?
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Go on, educate me on Ken Barrington please.
Johan
Cricketer Of The Year
Barrington kidnapped a pakistani umpire once because he and his friends thought he was biased toward Pakistan and thus he and his friends kidnapped him, took him to a hotel room and beat the crap out of him.
kinda based ngl
A cover fielder doesn't get the same number of opportunities, and they are sitters more often than not.
Gully is basically a name for a really wide slip.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ok but cover also deals with saving runs and affecting runouts. Simply more impact.
Run outs are negligible. Maybe 1 a game for the entire team combined vs more than 1 catch a game for your best slip.
And your slips are also stopping boundaries.
Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
In limited overs covers are more important. But Tests, no chance … wickets are more important.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Run outs are also wickets. Not to mention wicket pressure by blocking runs.
Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
Slip catches atleast happen thrice the amount of run outs every match.
and getting a wicket has more emphasis than giving a wicket pressure by blocking runs.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
We aren't talking total slip catches. We are talking the extra blinders a top slipper will catch versus extra run outs and it's much closer.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah duh but we aren't talking the absence of a slip. Just the value of an elite slip versus elite cover.