Wally Hammond vs Allan Border

[sayon basak]

Top 20 baseball players imo:-
1. Babe Ruth
2. Willie Mays
3. Barry Bonds
4. Hank Aaron
5. Ted Williams
6. Ty Cobb
7. Lou Gehrig
8. Mickey Mantle
9. Stan Musial
10. Walter Johnson
11. Ken Griffey Jr.
12. Honus Wagner
13. Pedro Martinez
14. Roger Hornsby
15. Greg Maddux
16. Joe DiMaggio
17. Randy Johnson
18. Roger Clemens
19. Mike Trout
20. Shohei Ohtani (recently moved him above Pujlos, Henderson, CY Young and ARod)

 

[DrWolverine]

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Actually perhaps a better analogy might be Kobe and Duncan.

Meaning?

 

[DrWolverine]

This is just in ring work or overall? Overall taker must be top 3 min

Drawing ability? In ring work? mic skills
Taker is not top three in any category

 

[Coronis]

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Meaning?

Basically the same thing

 

[Thala_0710]

Drawing ability? In ring work? mic skills
Taker is not top three in any category

Yeah but Undertaker is the greatest character ever created. The storylines, the iconic matches, the entrance, the long list of signature moves, the WrestleMania streak, the longevity and the respect that he had in the backroom. It was his backyard for over 30 yrs and he didn't need titles to uplift him.
Also the hell in a cell, buried alive matches, casket matches are due to him. The whole Kane storyline is one of the greatest stories of WWE. Surely all of this, makes him top 3.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Rare Luffy L

I just never got the appeal of those long streched fights with way too much showmanship and really not any fighting. And a group of my friends back when I was 10-13 constantly talking about wrestling in the field while playing cricket/football made me hate it a little unjustifiably.

 

[kyear2]

Tennis is pretty generic:

Djokovic
Federer
Nadal

With Laver at 4th and Pancho Gonzalez at 5th (the hot take!).

F1:

Schumacher
Hamilton
Senna

Fangio at 4th, Frost at 5th. Verstappen close.

Fed will always be no. 1. Long live the King.

And how quickly we forget Pete.

 

[kyear2]

Yeah sure bud. Senna was HIM

So was Viv.

But yeah, not that apart from Prost.

 

[capt_Luffy]

So was Viv.

But yeah, not that apart from Prost.

Like Viv not that apart from Gavaskar??

 

[capt_Luffy]

Fed will always be no. 1. Long live the King.

And how quickly we forget Pete.

Pete really isn't top 5 material, definitely not 4.

 

[kyear2]

I'd go
Djoker
Rafa
Fed

F1:
Senna
Schumi
Hamilton

Prost, Fangio and Max all close

How is Rafa remotely over Fed?

How many slams in the most obscure surface?

Wouldn't even bother with the F1 list.

 

[kyear2]

Actually perhaps a better analogy might be Kobe and Duncan.

Well Duncan was clearly and easily better.

 

[kyear2]

Probably not, but definitely has the right to have a top 5 as well, I'll go (for WWE)

1. Bret Hart

2. Steve Austin
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Kurt Angle
5. Dwayne Johnson/The Rock

Bret is the GOAT

Not sure how Kurt made that list though.

 

[kyear2]

Like Viv not that apart from Gavaskar??

And like everything else, we shall agree to disagree.

I have Viv and Sachin on equal footing, not Sunny.

 

[capt_Luffy]

And like everything else, we shall agree to disagree.

I have Viv and Sachin on equal footing, not Sunny.

Similarly, I have Viv and Sunny on equal footing, not Sachin.

 

[kyear2]

Similarly, I have Viv and Sunny on equal footing, not Sachin.

And I think that's crazy, so... Here we are

 

[capt_Luffy]

And I think that's crazy, so... Here we are

And I think it makes much more sense than your stance but alright.

 

[Johan]

Bret is the GOAT

Not sure how Kurt made that list though.

absolute truth

 

[Coronis]

Well Duncan was clearly and easily better.

I agree Duncan was better. But you’ll find a majority of people will rate Kobe higher. Exactly like Prost and Senna.

And ofc there’s the whole dying thing that makes the analogy work too.

 

[DrWolverine]

Not sure how Kurt made that list though.

Because he won a gold medal with a broken frkn neck