Vernon Philander vs Brian Statham

[Johan]

Okay, I can go with bringing Trueman up to Philander level.

Bro

Fred has 83 more wickets in just 3 more games, and his SR is an absurd outlier to era, he is 22 points behind his era strike rate, more of an outlier than Steyn, it's exactly what Fred was highly rated for, extremely aggressive good wicket taker.

Lindwall: 60 Strike rate, 2 wickets an inning
Statham: 63 strike rate, 1.95 wickets an inning
Miller: 61 strike rate, 1.78 wickets an inning
Bedser: 67 strike rate, 2.56 wickets an inning (medium pace)
Adcock: 61 strike rate, 2.26 wickets an inning (never played on flatties)
Davidson: 63 strike rate, 2.26 wickets an inning


Trueman: 49 strike rate, 2.41 wickets an inning

 

[shortpitched713]

Well yes it can, because he played the majority of his career in favourable conditions. iirc wasn’t he notorious for missing out on tough matches?

Lets also not forget how low his WPI and WPM are.

He got key wickets, and the whole not playing in certain conditions only happened a couple times I think towards the end. It's highly overplayed.

 

[Coronis]

He got key wickets, and the whole not playing in certain conditions only happened a couple times I think towards the end. It's highly overplayed.

ftr he has the worst WPI of any bowler with 200 wickets who averages under 30 aside from Kemar Roach, Mohammad Shami and Chaminda Vaas.

Thats completely ass productivity from an opening bowler you claim to be better than Trueman, Lillee, Anderson, Waqar, Holding

 

[shortpitched713]

He was there to get good wickets, not many wickets, mmkay.

 

[Coronis]

He was there to bowl on good wickets, not many wickets, mmkay.

ftfy

I know you’re saying he’s the GOAT in friendly conditions but how can he be if he can’t even average 2 wickets per innings in his home country, the friendliest for pace bowling?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Not all pitches were bowler friendly in SA tbf. Philander is better than most ATGs on seaming pitches because of his accuracy.

 

[shortpitched713]

ftfy

I know you’re saying he’s the GOAT in friendly conditions but how can he be if he can’t even average 2 wickets per innings in his home country, the friendliest for pace bowling?

He was absolute gun for my signature draft team which had 6 quality bowlers.

So, if you construct a Test team with that blueprint, he'll be great.