*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread

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Wahey: https://www.theaccnz.com/news/austr...NA2kSSOYJV07DGlfP7mS6OdNZMyX4d9XoFOtf1Cq-01rI

 

[Flem274*]

noooooooooo

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Interesting though that there isn’t a New Zealand cricketer to appear on the top paid cricketers lists

http://youtu.be/s3jwuPaS0k8

Kane Williamson is the only NZ cricketer that earns more from his national contract than Ellyse Perry does from hers.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Wahey: https://www.theaccnz.com/news/austr...NA2kSSOYJV07DGlfP7mS6OdNZMyX4d9XoFOtf1Cq-01rI

Good to know we’ll be returning to complete our paddling.

Hoping some Aus tests in NZ are announced soon ...

 

[Flem274*]

i know it's the middle of winter but can we have some cricket pls? borrow a ground in the north of aus. i wanna see;

latham
blundell
kane
the boss
nicholls
watling
lord colin
southee
wagner
ajaz
boult

vs

rachin
conway
young
phillips
seifert
neesham
cleaver
jamieson
somerville
ferguson
tickner

that could be a close series if that second xi is truly close to test ready as a side. individuals would stand up at least.

or maybe the australian mental capitulation trigger means they would all die of corona at the paradox of trying to capitulate to each other.

 

[Flem274*]

cbf finding the domestic thread.

he's only played 1 game and is 20 years old but i saw a couple of balls from jarrod mckay on the stags fb page and he's got some talent tbh

 

[Chewie]

Daryl Mitchell is moving to Canterbury

 

[Chewie]

First round of contracts are out:

Otago
Matt Bacon (Albion CC)
Neil Broom (North East Valley CC)
Max Chu (Carisbrook Dunedin CC)
Jacob Duffy (Kaikorai CC)
Josh Finnie (Kaikorai CC)
Dean Foxcroft (Carisbrook Dunedin CC)
Anaru Kitchen (North East Valley CC)
Nick Kelly (Green Island CC)
Dale Phillips (Taieri CC)
Hamish Rutherford (Albion CC)
Mitch Renwick (Kaikorai CC)
Michael Rippon (Kaikorai CC)
Michael Rae (North East Valley CC)
Nathan Smith (Carisbrook CC)

Wellington
Finn Allen
Hamish Bennett
Michael Bracewell
Fraser Colson
Andrew Fletcher
Jamie Gibson
Lauchie Johns
Troy Johnson
Iain McPeake
Ollie Newton
Rachin Ravindra
Ben Sears
Michael Snedden
Logan van Beek
Peter Younghusband

Auckland
Graeme Beghin
Jamie Brown
Mark Chapman
Louis Delport
Danru Ferns
Ben Horne
Ben Lister
Matt McEwan
Colin Munro
Robbie O’Donnell
William O’Donnell
Glenn Phillips
Sean Solia
Will Somerville

Canterbury
Todd Astle
Chad Bowes
Jack Boyle
Leo Carter
Cam Fletcher
Andrew Hazeldine
Ken McClure
Cole McConchie
Daryl Mitchell
Ed Nuttall
Fraser Sheat
Henry Shipley
Theo van Woerkom
Will Williams

Couldn't find the CD or ND contract lists. Raval has moved to ND though

 

[nzfan]

Fairly predictable squads, no major changes across the teams. Yes heard Jeet Raval's moved to ND. CD is also going to be stock standard.

As a firebirds supporter happy with Finn Allen coming to Wellington but hoping Blundell, Neesham and Conway can play fair number of games for us otherwise the batting looks quite thin. The bowling is in good hands. I would have thought we somehow pinched a senior batsman from somewhere else would have set us up nicely.

 

[Moss]

No Corey Anderson in the list for Auckland. Is he well and truly a freelance T20 specialist now?

 

[Flem274*]

when are auckland going to announce their batting contracts? phillips, chapman and?...

mitchell and allen are such good pickups for those sides, and those players needed room to breathe. mutual benefit.

odd raval moved unless he thinks he gets better coaching and prep at northern. he and cooper are a good partnership but i will miss the seifert red ball opener experiment.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

odd raval moved unless he thinks he gets better coaching and prep at northern. he and cooper are a good partnership but i will miss the seifert red ball opener experiment.

He wants a go in white ball cricket ... understandable, he could barely even get a go in Ford Trophy for Auckland.

Really excited to see how Finn Allen goes for the Firebirds!

 

[thundaboult]

That wellington team holds the cards for our international future. Finn Allen, Ravindra, Sears. All 3 need to become huge.

 

[Flem274*]

what could have been. steve said he was uncoachable, but tbf early 00s nz technical coaching ruined its fair share of players (mainly bowlers).

even some legside shots in there. a pull off donald even.

 

[SteveNZ]

what could have been. steve said he was uncoachable, but tbf early 00s nz technical coaching ruined its fair share of players (mainly bowlers).

even some legside shots in there. a pull off donald even.

Uncoachable, but also unapproachable. A lot of the guys around that time were gigantic ****heads to him as well, to be fair. Wasn't an easy time to be in that side if you weren't a big personality who could win games of international cricket by yourself.

 

[Flem274*]

yeah i was watching some 90s and 00s highlights and our nice guys tag really is a case of the facts not getting in the way of a story. cairns, nash, parore, mcmillan, vettori and mills in particular behaved like massive dickheads. cairns spent half the 99 england series sledging.

and he backed it up with his performance. that era didn't have the raw batting talent or fit quicks like the current does (they'd kill puppies for even a tom latham), but they had far more self confidence.

sinclair was an awkward dude, so being in a team with a pack of jocks wasn't going to end well. i still remember the reports of young kane being mocked for practicing too much. sinclair would probably enjoy playing under kane or mccullum a lot more (baz preached natural game, so would potentially have given skippy more rope).

merge the confidence of the fleming era with the professionalism and fit to play talent of this one and you've got a team.

 

[Mike5181]

Sinclair dropped the ball in early '08 when Astle, Styris, McMillan, Cairns, had left and Fleming was on his way out.

Had he done better than a middling performance against a terrible Bangladesh side (where Ian Smith had a go at him on comms for playing over Styris iirc), and a failure against England, he could have played for a few years even though he was around 32 at the time. But it wasn't to be and he opened the door up for players like Flynn, James Marshall, Ryder, etc.

 

[Flem274*]

the door should never have been open for james marshall and flynn was a fortunate selection as well

sinclair's confidence was shot by then though. he was done. too many yo-yo selections, and it was still the mean girls era.

 

[TheBrand]

Has Mark Craig retired from FC cricket altogether now?

 

[Moss]

Sinclair dropped the ball in early '08 when Astle, Styris, McMillan, Cairns, had left and Fleming was on his way out.

Had he done better than a middling performance against a terrible Bangladesh side (where Ian Smith had a go at him on comms for playing over Styris iirc), and a failure against England, he could have played for a few years even though he was around 32 at the time. But it wasn't to be and he opened the door up for players like Flynn, James Marshall, Ryder, etc.

Sinclair in '08 was like Graeme Hick in 2000-2001. The damage had already been done through the drop-recall-drop-rinse-repeat process he had been subjected to from 2002 to 2006-07. Granted, NZ back then didn't seem big on stability in the top order (see: Lou Vincent), but you'd think a guy with those two double centuries and the aforementioned 150 should have been managed carefully. And John Bracewell coming in as coach in 2004 surely wouldn't have helped matters.

He was one of those guys who seemed to go to pieces whenever he came up against the Australians (which may not have been the greatest thing in the era of bullish individuals that Flem alluded to) and if I'm not wrong he would often be discarded immediately after an Australia series. Almost tempted to believe he'd have succeed under the current regime, simply on account of rarely having to see a baggy green or yellow shirt over the course of his career,