TMS Top 100 Greatest Cricketers

[Coronis]

Clem Hill was an omission I noticed.

Particularly what irked me were some of the (likely biased) selections of certain English players towards the tail of the list… Close, Brearley, Gatting.

 

[Line and Length]

Ian Botham at 6 and Keith Miller at 67 seems weird.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Ian Botham at 6 and Keith Miller at 67 seems weird.

Definitely gives a "just picked their mates/picked in order that people came to mind" vibe. So interesting as a talking point, but not as a credible rating order.

 

[Ali TT]

Definitely gives a "just picked their mates/picked in order that people came to mind" vibe. So interesting as a talking point, but not as a credible rating order.

I suspect any of those involved in creating the list who are still alive would be quite amazed it was being dragged up for discussion 25 years later. Be surprised if they can even remember contributing to it.

 

[capt_Luffy]

If we completely ignore the order, then the list is like 80% solid.

If we think rationally, it's largely bullshit.

 

[Coronis]

If we completely ignore the order, then the list is like 80% solid.

If we think rationally, it's largely bullshit.

tbh can be applied to many “greatest cricketers” lists. Most are based on reasons other than rationality.

 

[capt_Luffy]

tbh can be applied to many “greatest cricketers” lists. Most are based on reasons other than rationality.

I actually believe my poll "CW's 100 Greatest Cricketers" is one of the best 100 Greatest Cricketers list out there. Certainly better than any experts I have seen by a comfortable shot.

 

[kyear2]

It seemed like you chose the worst list of the lot, but some decent players in the top 15

That being said, the list is complete horse ****.

But if the ones we were discussing, the CMJ one, and the ones by Crowe and Gower weren't bad at all.

 

[Skyliner]

80 Geoff Howarth


94 Martin Crowe

 

[sayon basak]

80 Geoff Howarth


94 Martin Crowe

56 Jonty Rhodes


67 Keith Miller

 

[peterhrt]

But if the ones we were discussing, the CMJ one, and the ones by Crowe and Gower weren't bad at all.

CMJ had input to the TMS list. There are notable similarities between his list and theirs. TMS ranking shown first. CMJ's came out ten years later when more players had emerged. Many of the players CMJ included who TMS didn't were new. Where placements are within 5 rankings of each other they are indicated in red. Within 10 in blue. Note the likes of Constantine, Fry and Shrewsbury in both lists.

Among the non-English cricketers included by TMS but not CMJ were Simpson, Thomson, Procter, Ramadhin, Wes Hall, Kanhai, Kallicharran, Martin Crowe, Hanif and Aravinda de Silva.

Bradman 1,1
Grace 2, 2
Hobbs 3, 5
Sobers 4, 3
Lara 5, 24
Botham 6, 18
Viv Richards 7, 6
Hutton 8, 17
Warne 9, 4
Wilfred Rhodes 10, 15
Hammond 11, 8
Gavaskar 12, 26
Tendulkar 13, 9
Lillee 14, 19
Barry Richards 15, 28
Barnes 16, 7
Holding 17, 85
Imran 18, 14
Compton 19, 21
O'Reilly 20, 23
Herbert Sutcliffe 21, 43
Shrewsbury 22, 61
Headley 23, 20
Benaud 24, 41
Kapil Dev 25, 48
Lohmann 26, 50
Knott 27, 69
Steve Waugh 28, 63
Spofforth 29, 27
Gooch 30, 44
Trumper 32, 30
Clive Lloyd 34, 72
Ambrose 35, 51
Graeme Pollock 36, 37
Greg Chappell 37, 38
Hadlee 38, 25
Worrell 39, 39
Lindwall 41, 31
Trueman 42, 22
Laker 43, 33
Gower 44, 70
Boycott 45, 53
Fry 46, 60
Larwood 49, 49
Border 52, 52
Walcott 58, 45
Weekes 59, 32
Lance Gibbs 60, 90
Grimmett 63, 54
Constantine 64, 56
Miller 67, 16
Bedser 68, 29
Dexter 69, 78
Cowdrey 70, 75
Harvey 71, 87
Waqar 73, 36
Donald 74, 83
Marshall 75, 11
May 78, 42
Greenidge 79, 98
Javed Miandad 83, 57
Snow 84, 66
Ponsford 85, 81
Ranji 86, 35
Chandra 88, 94
Barrington 91, 46
Tate 92, 77
Bedi 93, 62

 

[Coronis]

56 Jonty Rhodes


67 Keith Miller

Fielding matters.