Time for an England white ball rebuild

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Be impossible for him to be at every game, but then again, having the coach at the ground is less important than in other sports I guess

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Was not expecting that from Baz. Hope it doesn't wear him out like it did others.

 

[Howe_zat]

Scenes when ODI bazball turns out to consist of steadily batting at 2.5 an over in order to preserve wickets before lunch

 

[grecian]

Good move, hopefully we'll see the transition of Test players into ODI's. No reason Duckett, Crawley, Pope and Smith shouldn't all play, brave new world.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Good move, hopefully we'll see the transition of Test players into ODI's. No reason Duckett, Crawley, Pope and Smith shouldn't all play, brave new world.

Sibley too, plays for Surrey and likes to bash the ball around!

 

[Hungry Llama]

My chief worry about Baz doing the job, which he cant ATM cos of the schedule, is that it will dilute his attention away from the test team that should be his main focus.

 

[grecian]

I wonder if Banton might come back into the reckoning, he was picked too soon, but has had a great season in all forms this year, certainly more consistent.

 

[kevinw]

I wonder if Banton might come back into the reckoning, he was picked too soon, but has had a great season in all forms this year, certainly more consistent.

Maybe, but I'm surprised Smeed's never been given a game.

 

[grecian]

Maybe, but I'm surprised Smeed's never been given a game.

Banton is just better in every way though.

I think Smeed only playing shortest-form, hasn't really worked. Everyone knows I'm not a fan of KP, and you'd think he would approve of Smeed's move, but he reckons if you are out of form, playing County Championship is sometimes the best way to get your form back.

Smeed didn't even get an hundred gig after a disastrous 2023.

 

[Chin Music]

Banton is just better in every way though.

I think Smeed only playing shortest-form, hasn't really worked. Everyone knows I'm not a fan of KP, and you'd think he would approve of Smeed's move, but he reckons if you are out of form, playing County Championship is sometimes the best way to get your form back.

Smeed didn't even get an hundred gig after a disastrous 2023.

I remember Smeed’s decision to be t20 only being generally supported by fans on the old forum I used to post on, not because we agreed with only playing only t20 per se, but because all the indicators were that he could barely hack it in 2nd XI cricket in other forms of the game. I guess it is a far greater danger of losing gigs when you aren’t in form.
I thought Pietersen was more thinking that it was too tough to play all three forms without much of a break? In the end they have let players be a bit more choosy and are more considerate of welfare since his time.

 

[Chubb]

McCullum is certainly right about Buttler being “miserable”. Guy looks like he hates cricket.

Buttler is one of the best examples of my thesis that most international players don’t like cricket very much if at all.

 

[Chin Music]

McCullum is certainly right about Buttler being “miserable”. Guy looks like he hates cricket.

Buttler is one of the best examples of my thesis that most international players don’t like cricket very much if at all.

He's hardly in credit as a captain over the last year, especially the 50 over world cup performance. The only thing that doesn't make me universally think he shouldn't be in the role is understanding what Mott's influence was. Who was making the decision that England should bowl first in those games in India? It was a bit like Melchett in Blackadder goes forth.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Not sure where to put this, but Flintoff has a job now as the England Lions coach, his season coaching the Northern Superchargers seemed quite positive (didn’t really watch this year’s Hundred lol), and I think he genuinely loves working with kids and up and coming talents, so it seems like a sensible first serious job in coaching for him

 

[grecian]

Not sure where to put this, but Flintoff has a job now as the England Lions coach, his season coaching the Northern Superchargers seemed quite positive (didn’t really watch this year’s Hundred lol), and I think he genuinely loves working with kids and up and coming talents, so it seems like a sensible first serious job in coaching for him

Yeah, anyone that has watched his tv show would know he has the people skills to be a great coach, think he'll lead England one day.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Yeah, anyone that has watched his tv show would know he has the people skills to be a great coach, think he'll lead England one day.

The level of player he was dealing with in that show was obviously different to what he’ll be dealing with now, but how much of cricket coaching is actual coaching, and how much is mentoring? Perhaps the Lions might actually require a little bit more of the former than the full England job considering a lot of them are kids at the very start of their careers, but even so, it’s not like football where the coach has a much bigger role tactically and the captain’s armband is little more than a formality

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, anyone that has watched his tv show would know he has the people skills to be a great coach, think he'll lead England one day.

I read that he and Jos didn’t gel, which is a shame, as our two ATG ODI players. Wouldn’t be surprised if he succeeded McCullum in one or both roles.

 

[wpdavid]

I wonder how much the TV series had to do with him getting the job. I'm fine with him managing the Lions actually, and he certainly has great man-management skills. You can only wish him every success because he's such a thoroughly decent man. However, after watching the programme about his battle with bulimia, I would worry for him if he landed the top job, where there will be far more pressure.