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Thoughts
- Thread starter Blewy
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Iam sorry but didn't a certian Sachin Tendulkar just play the whole of last year and just score 153 runs in the year, only saved by the fact he hit a 50 in one of the last games.Rik said:
Now he has a 50+ avg and avg well below 20, it happenes now and again and take into account the games played factors etc.
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
As yet I haven't seen a single "great" player playing anywhere near their potential. I haven't seen anything from the sim so far to erase any of my fears. It's not a "it's better so accept it" job, so far I don't think the sim is doing it's job, a view held by other people, and surely, if the results continue this way until the end of the season, we should be looking at which is the best option. At the moment, and after seeing results on VC4 last year, I'm inclined to go with VC4. And this is coming from someone who hasn't lost a game in 4D! I think, in order for WCC to stay in people's interists, a few modifications will need to be made to the Sim, because, at the moment, a lot of the results seem very strange and un-realistic.Rich2001 said:
nibbs
International Captain
the only that confuses me with the new sim is the experience thing. I think it has too much influence in the way a player goes. Just being experienced surely doesn't turn a player into something special. I mean ND for instance don't have very many stars as far as avgs go, infact their one of the worst sides in this department, if not the worst, but their players have played lots of games, so they've suddenly become really good. Is that how it should work?
Just out of interest what was actually wrong with VC4?
Just out of interest what was actually wrong with VC4?
Neil Pickup
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The only thing I could see that was wrong with VC4 was that it tended to get a little over-excited at times and bowl teams out for tiny scores.
That and the lack of draws.
That and the lack of draws.
Slats4ever
International Vice-Captain
Personally I think the only way to get the right result here is to take a vote... With Nibblet my main question is what was wrong with VC 4 and have we improved?
Mr Mxyzptlk
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It may not be improved, but it certainly isn't worse, so I don't see the point in voting as I don't see a point in scrapping it. Stick with the new sim.
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
Right, ok, a few things:
Could any new rules be included in start of season emails, a topped thread in the WCC forum and on the site when it's updated?
At the end of the season when we have given the sim a good run, could any obvious problems try to be rectified? A little tweaking won't take too long and there are some obvious problems at the moment: IE wildly unpredictible results which don't seem to have any bearing on the strength of the team, bowlers taking 9-0 in the VB cup (batsmen too weak, bowlers too strong?), I don't feel pitch conditions count as much as they did with VC4, experiance doesn't seem to matter at the moment, I have players with tons of experiance and players with none and they all have good records but just arn't performing, run chases are not very good since a team will continue at a certain rate not taking into account that they have lots of wickets in hand and finishing up short, or they don't have many left and loose their last 3 batsmen to slogs when there are only 15 runs to get. I know it's hard and it's only a piece of calculation software, but VC4 could do this, even if it was only very basic, but it did take into account some situations. Certainly I feel the new sim falls behind VC4 in the OD side of the game.
Forfitting, well personally I don't see why someone who forgets to submit their side should still get the result, I didn't get my playoff last season because I didn't submit, my only non-submittal of the season, but I still feel it's a valid threat and I don't see why someone who does submit their team should have to loose to a randomly picked side. Worked fine before in my mind, but feel free to disagree with me. Also, I do not feel putting a forfit system into the sim would take much time at all, I did something very similer when I was working on a program at college and it took hardly any time, it's just written into the program to allow the result to be modified, an edit option, which is very basic.
Just my views for now.
Could any new rules be included in start of season emails, a topped thread in the WCC forum and on the site when it's updated?
At the end of the season when we have given the sim a good run, could any obvious problems try to be rectified? A little tweaking won't take too long and there are some obvious problems at the moment: IE wildly unpredictible results which don't seem to have any bearing on the strength of the team, bowlers taking 9-0 in the VB cup (batsmen too weak, bowlers too strong?), I don't feel pitch conditions count as much as they did with VC4, experiance doesn't seem to matter at the moment, I have players with tons of experiance and players with none and they all have good records but just arn't performing, run chases are not very good since a team will continue at a certain rate not taking into account that they have lots of wickets in hand and finishing up short, or they don't have many left and loose their last 3 batsmen to slogs when there are only 15 runs to get. I know it's hard and it's only a piece of calculation software, but VC4 could do this, even if it was only very basic, but it did take into account some situations. Certainly I feel the new sim falls behind VC4 in the OD side of the game.
Forfitting, well personally I don't see why someone who forgets to submit their side should still get the result, I didn't get my playoff last season because I didn't submit, my only non-submittal of the season, but I still feel it's a valid threat and I don't see why someone who does submit their team should have to loose to a randomly picked side. Worked fine before in my mind, but feel free to disagree with me. Also, I do not feel putting a forfit system into the sim would take much time at all, I did something very similer when I was working on a program at college and it took hardly any time, it's just written into the program to allow the result to be modified, an edit option, which is very basic.
Just my views for now.
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Mr Mxyzptlk
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The VB Cup is simmed using VC4.Rik said:
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
VC4 seems to have a problem with the 20 overs, which I've noticed a few times. I was talking about wildly unpredictible results more so in the 4D and OD competitions which are run using the new Sim, the VB Cup was just one occasion I had noticed such results, not the be all and end all, and I have now understood why.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
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Slats4ever
International Vice-Captain
I can't agree with rik more on this one.Rik said:
Cloete
International Captain
You actually have a pretty damn good team mate. The on problem was Ryan never seemed to want to trade, so h never really ended up with more than one good bowler. But you batting is hugely talented. So maybe expect better results in one-dayers where you don't have to bowl the side out.jamee999 said:
age_master
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i dont really know why my OD side is losing so badly, on paper its comparable to the best but we are struggling to win anything atm 
the 4d part of teh sim seems very accurate though.
the 4d part of teh sim seems very accurate though.