The worst player to have achieved a given thing and the best player not to

[Firebreaker]

Azhar Ali has 300 and some greats like Tendulkar,Ponting,Kallis dont

 

[mr_mister]

^dude, Azhar Ali is still far more accomplished than Karun Nair lol


dude averages like 10 in tests outside of that one innings

 

[Bijed]

^dude, Azhar Ali is still far more accomplished than Karun Nair lol


dude averages like 10 in tests outside of that one innings

Fair to say such a pattern of scores across a whole (albeit very short) is fairly unique, if nothing else

 

[91Jmay]

Rahane should be in the first list, and some would say Kohli too

Rahane is nowhere near that first list, get real

 

[OverratedSanity]

Neither is Kohli at this stage

 

[91Jmay]

Kohli will though, just needs to find a bit more consistency. I rate Rahane but there are plenty of excellent players who finish with high 40 averages and no one suggests they should have averaged more.

 

[andruid]

Worst bowlers to get 1000 FC wickets?

 

[a massive zebra]

Harold Larwood the best bowler to average over 28?

It's bloody crazy his average his higher than Gus Fraser's, no offence to Gus. Larwood has this amazing reputation and it just not sync up with the test stats



McDonald surely the best with an average over 33

Possibly among fast bowlers. Anil Kumble, Bishen Bedi, Rangana Herath, Lance Gibbs and Saqlain Mushtaq are all very highly regarded spinners with averages over 28.

Remember Larwood had to play most of his Tests against by far the best batsman ever, who consistently buried him in every series except Bodyline. In fact, excluding the Bodyline series, Larwood's average is over 40!

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Don Bradman is the best batsman to score a duck and Paul Terry the worst batsman not to.

 

[AndrewB]

Possibly among fast bowlers. Anil Kumble, Bishen Bedi, Rangana Herath, Lance Gibbs and Saqlain Mushtaq are all very highly regarded spinners with averages over 28.

Remember Larwood had to play most of his Tests against by far the best batsman ever, who consistently buried him in every series except Bodyline. In fact, excluding the Bodyline series, Larwood's average is over 40!

That's in Ashes Tests; it's 34.84 in all Tests excluding the bodyline series.

 

[stephen]

I seem to remember reading an analysis which said that Larwood averaged somewhere in the mid-20s if you take out the runs scored by Bradman against him.

He has a massive reputation mostly because he was Bradman's fiercest rival in the 30s and Bradman absolutely tore him apart.

 

[the big bambino]

Well yeah, these are both players who you rate based on first class career rather than Tests. Nether were great Test bowlers.

Clearly they were.

 

[Daemon]

^dude, Azhar Ali is still far more accomplished than Karun Nair lol


dude averages like 10 in tests outside of that one innings

You must be jelly that Nair overtook Voges as the 2nd best batsman in the history of test cricket.

 

[andruid]

Worst bowlers to get 1000 FC wickets?

Somebody answer my question

and best bowler not to get to 1000 FC wickets.

 

[AndrewB]

Somebody answer my question :sad:

and best bowler not to get to 1000 FC wickets.

None of Glenn McGrath, Sydney Barnes, Bill O'Reilly, Dale Steyn, Dennis Lillee, Michael Holding and Curtly Ambrose took 1000 FC wickets.

 

[a massive zebra]

Worst bowlers to get 1000 FC wickets?

Robert Croft took his wickets at an average of 35. Ray Smith averaged over 30 in a lower scoring era. Brian Close passed the 1,000 first class wickets mark despite taking less than 1.5 wickets per match.

 

[Starfighter]

I'd say Close is a pretty good pick, but the other two certainly have cases.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Jimmy Anderson is the worst bowler to reach 500 Test wickets. Malcolm Marshall the best bowler not to.

 

[Engle]

Wasim Akram is the worst batsman to have scored 250+ in a Test innings and Jack Hobbs is the best batsman to not have done so (along with Tendulkar )

 

[Furball]

Jimmy Anderson is the worst bowler to reach 500 Test wickets. Malcolm Marshall the best bowler not to.

Anil Kumble would like a word