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The use of Long Sleeved shirts to mask chucking

pup11

International Coach
Always had a problem with bowlers, wearing full sleeve shirts, as they definitely help mask that occasional chuck.
So unless there's an obvious change in action, its pretty hard to catch it on camera, or through naked eye.
 

Migara

International Coach
Yeah..couple of spinners nowadays have slightly suspect actions. Botha would be one of them, maybe ojha too but not as much. Can't decide with harbhajan though, he looks decent now but his hat trick video caught the attention of a lot of people with his action.

A pace bowler who I think chucks was Kyle Mills (not that anyone cares about him)
Ojha's normal delivery is just fine and classical. But there isa certain delivery where he tries to spin more. At that point of time it looks ugly.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
I would agree that the long sleeve would hide the occasional chuck but if a bowler is a real chucker with most of his deliveries being chucked he would be found out pretty soon. And in any case. The new 15 degree room is quite accommodating really.
 

Daemon

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I would agree that the long sleeve would hide the occasional chuck but if a bowler is a real chucker with most of his deliveries being chucked he would be found out pretty soon. And in any case. The new 15 degree room is quite accommodating really.
awta. 15 degrees is a pretty large allowance. Too large imo but oh well. :sleep:
 

Jayzamann

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Wasn't that allowance brought in because it was found that going by the old rules, some riduculously large percentage of bowlers were chuckers? (~90%?)
 

Daemon

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Wasn't that allowance brought in because it was found that going by the old rules, some riduculously large percentage of bowlers were chuckers? (~90%?)
No idea, but according to every damn youtube video comment featuring Murali, they changed the rules to accomodate his action :laugh:
 

zaremba

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Andrew Hall has a horribly suspect bowling action and I don't think it's any coincidence that he's always opted for three-quarter length sleeves.
 

andyc

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Wasn't that allowance brought in because it was found that going by the old rules, some riduculously large percentage of bowlers were chuckers? (~90%?)
Yeah pretty much. IIRC, they did tests at the Champions Trophy and only Sarwan was within the legal limits at the time.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
But with all the cameras (36 different ones at some grounds IIRC) covering today's matches it really seems quite silly to be wearing long sleeve shirts to mask chucking. It is not that full sleeved shirts can really hide chucking. For e.g people who though Murali chucked didn't need him to wear half sleeved shirts to reach that conclusion.

Just look at shoaib's when he is bowling around the wicket to the left handers (especially when they show the camera behind the batsman...) no sleeve in the world, bar a space suit, would hide that kind of chucking)
 

vic_orthdox

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Ojha's normal delivery is just fine and classical. But there isa certain delivery where he tries to spin more. At that point of time it looks ugly.
Ojha tends to bowl with a slightly bent arm at times, almost decreasing the angle rather than extending as he bowls.
 

Burgey

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Thing is there's now a system in place at least to look at the way guys bowl, which is a massive step up from where we were 15-20 years ago.

I wonder what might have been for Ian Meckiff had he ever been tested? Eddie Gilbert too for that matter. We'll never know.
 

vcs

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Charlie Griffith chucked it from what few grainy youtube clips I've watched (check out that "Pace like Fire" video). Wore long sleeves as well.

 

Top_Cat

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tbh, none of the footage or pics of Griffith really prove whether it was him chucking or hyper-extension (not that stills are any good at showing that anyway).

Him wearing long sleeves is neither here nor there, could have been doing it just to ease the scrutiny rather than covering up him chucking. We'll probably never know.
 
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