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The MMA/UFC Thread

cnerd123

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As for whats next for Connor...man IDK. But he really has raised the bar for MMA. Simple gameplans, fantastic skill sets, great mental warfare, great execution under pressure, incredibly active, great at selling himself and the fights, great business sense.

We've seen elements of all these in different fighters, but no one has quite put them all together like he has. It really is quite special.

Hope the new wave of fighters that follow learn from this.

I think he might take some time off, and then we'll get Connor vs Nate 3 for the lightweight belt. UFC 209. Then he might go down and finally defend that 145 title - if Jose is still around it will be him, otherwise its Holloway. I think Khabib and Ferguson might have to wait a while.
 
Blocky

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So in essence.

You're ignoring Chael Sonnen (the man who was right about the substance Jon Jones had been using) and Joe Rogan (the man who is actually present at weigh ins and also privy to the pre-fight check that includes fight weight) over your own opinion that Nate can make 155 therefore he can't possibly be walking around over 180. That means I can ignore you.

Also, the rhetoric around "He only had 10 days to make weight!" - http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/

There is another article talking about how easily you can remove 30lbs from your frame for a weigh in. It's not at all hard for a fighter with 10 days notice to remove that from their frame and most do.

Brock cuts from 295 to 265 a week before the fight, Ricky Hatton used to cut from 190-195 down to 140-147 within weeks of the fight. Very few fighters these days fight at the weight they weigh at. Jon Jones is going to do Flosports Grappling at around 235lb - he fights at 205.
 
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As for whats next for Connor...man IDK. But he really has raised the bar for MMA. Simple gameplans, fantastic skill sets, great mental warfare, great execution under pressure, incredibly active, great at selling himself and the fights, great business sense.

We've seen elements of all these in different fighters, but no one has quite put them all together like he has. It really is quite special.

Hope the new wave of fighters that follow learn from this.

I think he might take some time off, and then we'll get Connor vs Nate 3 for the lightweight belt. UFC 209. Then he might go down and finally defend that 145 title - if Jose is still around it will be him, otherwise its Holloway. I think Khabib and Ferguson might have to wait a while.
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In any real sport it would be Khabib, but there's no point giving him a fight he has a good chance of losing.
 
Blocky

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In any real sport it would be Khabib, but there's no point giving him a fight he has a good chance of losing.
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He was underdog against Aldo; I think Khabib or Ferguson are the right guys to look at for the fight, although neither of them are draws and at this level, it's about how you can sell a card as much about who deserves a fair shot.

That being said, Khabib would kill Conor.
 
cnerd123

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In any real sport it would be Khabib, but there's no point giving him a fight he has a good chance of losing.
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Um two problems with this

A) MMA is as much a 'real sport' as Boxing is. It's prize fighting. It's not a league. It has the illusion of the league, but at the end of the day the fights that sell will be the fights that get made.

B) It's 50/50 between Khabib and McG. Either McG knocks him out, or Khabib wrestle****s him. But there is a good chance that when you add in the shenanigans in the build up that Connor will pull, Khabib might just get mad and try and stand and box with him, and that will only end one way.
 
indiaholic

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Lol that seems surprisingly effective. Eddie said that he didn't do a single thing he had trained for. I thought all this getting in a person's head was mostly rubbish, but apparently not the case.
 
King Pietersen

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I didn't even think Conor was doing that well in the trash talk either, Eddie seemed pretty composed all week, but Conor was in there. He absolutely ruined Aldo, the amount of **** he talked about Aldo was ridiculous, Jose was done before he even got in the cage. Same with Poirier, completely threw him off his game. He's the best ever at doing it.
 
Blocky

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Way better than boxing imo.
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Only for one reason though, you've got a single promoter/match maker that matters... I think MMA is going to go through the same issues that boxing has struggled with since the 70s now that Bellator, Rizin and WSF are becoming more able to attract audiences and pay for fighters, you're going to have multiple bodies/agencies who each have fighters, who each feel they're world champions, the best guys won't fight one another and it'll increasingly become more fractured/marginalised.

In a way, Connor is already breaking the UFC wide open, if he was doing the PPV numbers he's done in the UFC as a boxer, he'd be earning 5 times the money he's earning at the moment. That's another issue the UFC will contend with, as fighters unions are being spoken of and payshare/split of the purse to the fighters is coming under pressure, that'll mean their cards will be less stacked and they'll be dragged back into boxing.

ps, boxing still owns all PPV records.
 
Blocky

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Tim Elliott is a legitimate beast, given some more fights in the UFC, a rematch with Mighty Mouse would be interesting.
 
King Pietersen

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DJ-Elliot was a great fight. One of the best MMA grappling matches in a long time, back and forth transitions, sub attempts, and then fantastic on the feet. Best fight anyone has given DJ in a long time, probably since the first McCall fight.
 
Blocky

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I really hope Nunes butchers Ronda Rousey. I was a big fan of Rousey, but the level of arrogance towards the press just because they rightfully celebrated Holm beating her and the prima-donna horse **** that the UFC is now letting her get away with, combined with the stupidity of keeping her coach the same despite him being the worst coach in MMA just makes her deserve the loss.
 
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