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Precambrian

Banned
Micheal Atherton's tribute to Tendulkar in The Times.

Bit of rich from a guy who called Tendulkar "Just a Comic Hero" in Apr 07.

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The archives recall not one single incriminating incident, not one drunken escapade, not one reported affair, not one spat with a team-mate or reporter. Throughout, he has maintained his professional integrity, tailoring his game to the demands of the situation and the team, always giving the game and his craft due care and attention. As Matthew Parris wondered of Barack Obama in these pages recently, is he human?
 

Precambrian

Banned
It's dangerous to write off Tendulkar at any point of time. I mean, how Chappelli, for all his wisdom and experience, came out strongly at Tendulkar post WC 07, in fact even remarked that Tendulkar should retire, as he is playing for records and not for the team. And how he was made to eat his words during India's tour of Australia! I don't think he'll dare to come up with such a comment ever again.
 

morgieb

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Some people just like playing cricket, believe it or not.
I know, but what happens if he plays on for too long. He's already past his peak, and while he's added too much to be dropped, he may struggle in the future.
 

morgieb

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Ah, well that's settled then, no host nation will ever win it
I'm not saying it won't happen, I was trying to say that it's FTR, it's unlikely that India will win in 2011.

Having said that, it's fairly possible that they can win, but FSR, they always choke in Asia.
 

Richard

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I know, but what happens if he plays on for too long. He's already past his peak, and while he's added too much to be dropped, he may struggle in the future.
But he may not. If he wants to avoid the risk, he'd be well-advised to retire fairly soon. If he doesn't care about not being Test-standard for a time in order to ensure he gives all he has to give, he'll play on for as long as anyone will have him.

If he plays on for a time being not Test standard that will indeed disappoint me, but it's his choice. I hope he elects to retire before this happens, but that's my hope and my hope only.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
That's nonsense, Tendulkar had a few bad innings' against Collins.
Eh?. I think you are under-rating how well Collins bowled to him & the overall outstanding bowling performance by the WI in that series. That was supposed to be walk-over series for India TBH & Tendulkar for the 1st time in his career up to that point showed a bit of weakness towards outside off-stump to any bowler.

He was every bit still the brilliant Tendulkar in England in 2002 and in the return series at home against West Indies in 2002/03.
Compared to how he played a few months earlier in IND, i'd say he was lucky the Gough, Caddick was past their best & he got some pretty flat decks againts a pretty avergae ENG attack that summer (a irritating norm in his visits to England, its really shocking that Tendulkar has never faced a top-quality English attack in his 4 tours here), because having seen him in the WI i wasn't seen the same comanding Tendulkar.

When WI toured India, again he was lacking that commading presence.

I'd argue he wasn't really doing that much wrong in NZ in 2002/03 either - on the pitches that series was played on, his return was a pretty decent one.
Probably not (although i didn't see it), but having read reports that was probably the most bowler friendly conditions of this 2000s era.

The problems started in the home series against NZ in 2003/04 IMO.
I think around then his tennis-elbow woes started to kick in, but as i said since Bridgetown 02 i could sense Tendy wasn't that same.
 

Precambrian

Banned
Compared to how he played a few months earlier in IND, i'd say he was lucky the Gough, Caddick was past their best & he got some pretty flat decks againts a pretty avergae ENG attack that summer (a irritating norm in his visits to England, its really shocking that Tendulkar has never faced a top-quality English attack in his 4 tours here), because having seen him in the WI i wasn't seen the same comanding Tendulkar.
England had a top-quality pace attack in the 90s?
 

Perm

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Sheesh, how's it possible to pick-up a cricket-bat having not slept for 15 nights? :blink:

If I have 1 night where I don't sleep I'm zombie-esque the following day. 15 in a row is surely medically as good as impossible?
I remember reading somewhere that 35 hours is as long as you can go without sleep before you start physically 'deteriorating', for want of a better word. 15 days without any sleep at all is probably scientifically impossible, especially if he was training and playing during that time too.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
I remember reading somewhere that 35 hours is as long as you can go without sleep before you start physically 'deteriorating', for want of a better word. 15 days without any sleep at all is probably scientifically impossible, especially if he was training and playing during that time too.
I am pretty sure when he said he hadn't slept for 15 days (if he did say those exact words) he meant I haven't slept well for 15 days. Many of us have suffered from disturbed sleep during times of anxiety. Getting up in the middle of the night, not being able to go back to sleep immediately, getting spells of disturbed sleep are not uncommon. When talking about it to others one could use words like "I have hardly slept for the last couple of weeks" which can mean anything but rarely means I haven's slept at all for 15 days as is being interpreted here.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Eh?. I think you are under-rating how well Collins bowled to him & the overall outstanding bowling performance by the WI in that series. That was supposed to be walk-over series for India TBH & Tendulkar for the 1st time in his career up to that point showed a bit of weakness towards outside off-stump to any bowler.
Any time anyone's expecting a walkover for India outside the subcontinent they're asking a lot. Tendulkar has shown weakness occasionally here and there, normally sorted-out within a few innings'. And the same was true there as well.
Compared to how he played a few months earlier in IND, i'd say he was lucky the Gough, Caddick was past their best & he got some pretty flat decks againts a pretty avergae ENG attack that summer (a irritating norm in his visits to England, its really shocking that Tendulkar has never faced a top-quality English attack in his 4 tours here), because having seen him in the WI i wasn't seen the same comanding Tendulkar.
Oh, I think he was. His innings at Headingley was a masterpiece. He and Dravid's partnership at Trent Bridge also set the pulse racing.
When WI toured India, again he was lacking that commading presence.
So? He still scored with his usual regularity.
I think around then his tennis-elbow woes started to kick in, but as i said since Bridgetown 02 i could sense Tendy wasn't that same.
I think you were mis-sensing. To me it was obvious only from the home New Zealand series in 2003/04.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
England had a top-quality pace attack in the 90s?
Well they did sometimes, but fair to say not in either 1990 or 1996. Certainly the former. Neil Williams being a Test-match seamer says it all.

Was a fabulous batting unit though: Gooch, Atherton, Smith, Gower, Stewart.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
So since 1902 the record has changed hands just 9 times, 3 of which occurred within 3 years of each other. Only 6 times has an extended period been played out where the record-holder has remained (Hill 1902-1924/25; Hobbs 1924/25-1937; Hammond 1937-1970/71; Sobers 1972-1981/82; Gavaskar 1983/84-1992/93; and Border 1992/93-2005/06).

Walter Hammond is the only person not to see his record broken, as suggested in the piece. The only cricketer to die as the leading Test runscorer.
 

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