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The Manjrekar/Tendulkar story

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
SJS said:
Sanjay Manjrekar was once the biggest star in Indian cricket. Yes thats a fact. He was considered technically as good a batsman as anyone else in the world and he scored consistently. He was the new master batsman from Bombay.

The all of a sudden his batting started to come apart and with that his psyche.

Just then a new star emerged on the Indian horizon and so strongly did it start burning that the fading away of the budding giant in Sanjay Manjrekar went, welll not un-noticed but not as lamented as one would have imagined in a country like India. Sanjay just , kind of, 'lapsed' from the Indian fans' collective memory and faded away from the scene despite some desperate efforts to get back.

The impact on Sanjay's psyche was evident when he was trying to make a come back and later this emerged as a latent resentment against the batting stars on the Indian firmament. Anyone who has been following Sanjay's career as a broadcaster would have noticed how Sanjay's strange negativity when commenting on India's test matches. But it is with Tendulkar, the man who quietly replaced him from the pedestal he was so sure belonged to himself.

I am not surprised one tiny little bit by Sanjay's tirade. I am surprised it has taken so long to come out in the open. He is pathalogical in this respect.
Oh yeah you know all about Manjrekar. 8-) 8-)
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Sanz said:
Dude, there was a reason why top 22 players of the world played in that series. Those who were not selected felt insulted by it. It was a privilege and probably once in a life time opportunity for him to be on that team.

Whatever Manjrekar said about him about the Bangladesh Tour, I had said it then itself.

Anyways before attacking Manjrekar at least read the full article. - http://cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1779042.cms.

Privilege my ***. I would much rather he be fit for an India-Bangladesh series than a meaningless load of ICC sponsored BS masquerading as the ICC world XI.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
And you know all about Sachin, and his faking injuries?
No, I dont. But then dont be the morality police. You (or SJS) are no better. I didn't start this thread, neither was I the first one to make personal attacks in this thread.

Atleast my observation is from watching tendulkar fanatics whine, complain and look for excuses after every failure. For 2 years I have been hearing about his Injury. Earlier it was frustrating, not it is annoying.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Is it Sachin's fault that his fanatics go on about his injuries? Does that make them fake?
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
Privilege my ***. I would much rather he be fit for an India-Bangladesh series than a meaningless load of ICC sponsored BS masquerading as the ICC world XI.
Well, then that's just you. I would rather have watched him play ICC series and it certainly was not meaningless for me.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Sanz said:
Well, then that's just you. I would rather have watched him play ICC series and it certainly was not meaningless for me.
Well, good for you. But there's a reason everyone thought it was a bust. Why do you think ICC has said it won't schedule any more?

If ICC World XI win in Australia -- who cares? If India win overseas anywhere -- that matters to me.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
Is it Sachin's fault that his fanatics go on about his injuries? Does that make them fake?
No it's not. At the same time SJS and his cronies should have at least read Manjrekar's comments before launching their scathing attack on him.

To me it seems a very honest and well thought piece. ICC series was played between 5-20 October 2005 and Tendulkar didn't participate in it because he was injured. Well guess what between 5th and 20th october Injured Tendulkar was playing in Challenger trophy and facing the pedestrian attacks of the likes of Bhandaris where the top players of the world were facing Mcgrath, Warne etc.

But we must believe that Tendulkar was injured then and he was recoverying from injury. All the score-cards are bunch of lies created to defame the Almighty Shri Bhagawan Tendulkar ji. 8-) 8-)
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
Well, good for you. But there's a reason everyone thought it was a bust. Why do you think ICC has said it won't schedule any more?

If ICC World XI win in Australia -- who cares? If India win overseas anywhere -- that matters to me.
Well then good for you too. It may have been a bust, but that doesn't prevent it from being a once in a lifetime opportunity for fans (and cricketers) to be in the same team and to me it certainly counts more than our wins in Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Anyways - Did you know that Tendulkar was fully fit during ICC series and was playing Challengers. But wait you would have preferred him watching in challengers.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
You haven't taken travel and other circumstances into account though. But you do realise, if you believe Sachin faked his injury (or injuries), that is a massive scathing attack on not him as a player but as a person and his character. For someone who has received much praise from many people (not his fanatics) for the way he handles himself, its a pretty controversial call.

I don't think Sanjay stated that he faked his injuries, but rather he was ensuring that he was afraid of failure and hence always wanted to be 100% when he went out to bat on the big stage, something he may have not been thinking about in his pomp. You on the other hand seem to be blatantly calling him a weak 'faker'.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
You on the other hand seem to be blatantly calling him a weak 'faker'.
WTF ?? Where did I say that ? In my first post - I said Tendulkar (of today) is "too meak to play with injuries" and that I agree 100% with Manjrekar on this. It automatically means 'weak Faker', isn't it ?
 

kvemuri

U19 12th Man
I will just say one thing on this topic, its easy to criticise one when that person is down rather than support that person in their need. Indian media has shown a greatness in kicking a dog when its down, be it a Ganguly when he was going through horrendous form or be it an Azhar who was losing grip on his captaincy, they had already started circling around Sachin, this is a fine example of "washing your hands in flowing/river water".

One other comment, the tragedy of being Sachin is damned if he does damned if he doesn't, if he had played not 100% fit as Manjrekar states he should've, the media and fans and probably Manjrekar himself would've been all over Sachin for playing half fit and not allowing another fully fit player a chance and in this way being selfish. Now that he decided not to play without being fully fit Sachin is being accused of chasing a ghost, being un-realistic and faking injuries. All i can say is WOW and how low can someone sink.
 
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Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Just how is Sachin Tendulkar is 'Down' ? So much for carrying himself so well, Why didn't he go through the fitness test before being selected for the Lanka Tour ?
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Sanz said:
Just how is Sachin Tendulkar is 'Down' ? So much for carrying himself so well, Why didn't he go through the fitness test before being selected for the Lanka Tour ?

Oh, wait...he would only avoid the test if he wasn't fit right. So now you accuse him of trying to PLAY with injuries? Make up your damn mind!
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Problem with Tendulkar? I do not see any now . I mean player of his class should come in the team . The repute that the gentleman has is not bad at all . I mean this has been the problem with the Indian media (making mess out of a situation) . First every one wanted Ganguly out ,now they want him back in . Making different news about Tendulkar . In or out or what ever.
I think the picking and chosing of players should depend upon their performances in the domestic cricket . That is why Australia is Aistralia and others are just DO (2)number. Manjerekar may have made some valid points but the way was harsh to describe those points . Let the time be the judge . Let the guy perform and let us see.I mean Tends was great and lets see if he "is" or not!!!!!!!!!
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
Oh, wait...he would only avoid the test if he wasn't fit right. So now you accuse him of trying to PLAY with injuries? Make up your damn mind!
Spoken like a true fanatic. Go on keep putting words in others mouth.

I find it funny how all the Tendulkar fanatics avoided a simple question of why Sachin Tendulkar didn't go through the fitness test and instead have resorted to attack individuals that question his performance and his ability to perform.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
FRAZ said:
Problem with Tendulkar? I do not see any now . I mean player of his class should come in the team . The repute that the gentleman has is not bad at all . I mean this has been the problem with the Indian media (making mess out of a situation) . First every one wanted Ganguly out ,now they want him back in . Making different news about Tendulkar . In or out or what ever.
Just which media you have been reading lately ?
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
Agree with Sanz that Manjrekar had the right to say what he thought. But disagree with what was said.

When Sachin was discovered to have injuries, a lot of people were - he shouldn't be playing with injuries. And now this. Of all people in the Indian team, I think Sachin is still the most like a little kid with a bat and eager to go out and play. So, Manjrekar's comments, though a possibility, are not true.
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
Sanz said:
I find it funny how all the Tendulkar fanatics avoided a simple question of why Sachin Tendulkar didn't go through the fitness test and instead have resorted to attack individuals that question his performance and his ability to perform.
You mean the one before the West Indies tour? Well, I thought he hadn't quite recovered. Imagine the field day the media would have with a tsruggling Tendulkar trying to do a fitness test. Questions of not knowing his own strength etc
 

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