The Kane Williamson Average Watch thread

[The Sean]

Very well deserved, though it surprises me he still hasn't hit 900 points, given his form over the past couple of years.

That aside, in 21 Tests sInce October 2013 he has scored 2,396 runs with 10 centuries and 10 fifties at an average of 72.60. They're spectacular numbers, and he's done it home and away against all comers.

On top of that he seems like a class act and a genuinely nice bloke too. There must be something wrong with him, surely.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

The problem he has is that in the same time a player from England or Australia would have played another 10-15 tests and if they had kept up the same form they would get a much higher rating.

 

[Jezroy]

The problem he has is that in the same time a player from England or Australia would have played another 10-15 tests and if they had kept up the same form they would get a much higher rating.

We potentially have a much busier test schedule (than normal) over the next 18 months or so, so hopefully he can keep his form up.

 

[Jezroy]

Very well deserved, though it surprises me he still hasn't hit 900 points, given his form over the past couple of years.

That aside, in 21 Tests sInce October 2013 he has scored 2,396 runs with 10 centuries and 10 fifties at an average of 72.60. They're spectacular numbers, and he's done it home and away against all comers.

On top of that he seems like a class act and a genuinely nice bloke too. There must be something wrong with him, surely.

I reckon he's got 3 nipples.

 

[Hurricane]

Our Flem would have been fascinated by the Kane Interview on the cricket show

"For me talent is the ability to consistently find the middle of the bat. But if another player with less talent is a better decision maker then they will consistently make better scores and be the better player. I am mindful of talent, the need to practice so I can find the middle of the bat, and staying relaxed so I can make better decisions".

Never heard a more switched on interview in my life.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

KW Test average after his 108* in the second innings of the second Test against Sri Lanka: 49.93.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

The most interesting thing about this to me is that it has not even been a year since the Kane Williamson Challenge (TM) began, and at the beginning he averaged about 45. So his Test average has gone up by almost 5 runs in a year.

Obviously it's harder to increase an average of 50 than it is to increase an average of 40. But the career average of 60 is still possible in my opinion.

 

[Gnske]

Kumar almost got there after averaging just a tick under 50 at the end of 2006 I think. Entirely possible.

 

[Burner]

Kumar evolved to a different batsman altogether though compared to his small beginnings. Is there as much a stupendous change in KW, the batsman?

 

[Hurricane]

Kumar evolved to a different batsman altogether though compared to his small beginnings. Is there as much a stupendous change in KW, the batsman?

Doesn't flail around out side off stump and hang out the washing as he used to.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Is there as much a stupendous change in KW, the batsman?

Yes. The KW on debut had massive bags of talent, but wasn't actually that good.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Kumar evolved to a different batsman altogether though compared to his small beginnings. Is there as much a stupendous change in KW, the batsman?

he's never content and always looking for the next thing to work on to take his game to another level. He's never going to make the same errors more than a couple of tests in a row.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

On top of that he seems like a class act and a genuinely nice bloke too. There must be something wrong with him, surely.

Probably has something really big that balances out all the good qualities.

Kane Williamson: Holocaust denier

 

[Athlai]

Probably has something really big that balances out all the good qualities.

Kane Williamson: Holocaust denier

Even worse, prefers pepsi to coke.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Our Flem would have been fascinated by the Kane Interview on the cricket show

"For me talent is the ability to consistently find the middle of the bat. But if another player with less talent is a better decision maker then they will consistently make better scores and be the better player. I am mindful of talent, the need to practice so I can find the middle of the bat, and staying relaxed so I can make better decisions".

Never heard a more switched on interview in my life.

That's something I like about KW. He didn't get good just by relentlessly facing a million balls in the nets like a cyborg. He did that, but also thinks very, very hard about his game from all possible angles. It's very rare to see him get out in the same way twice, because he seems to study his weaknesses with such rigour that he soon overcomes them.

I'm sure that's why he likes fielding at gully. From there you can get a good view of the batting and the degree of bounce of the pitch. I'm sure he'd be happy enough there with a notebook writing his thoughts down.

 

[Hurricane]

That's something I like about KW. He didn't get good just by relentlessly facing a million balls in the nets like a cyborg. He did that, but also thinks very, very hard about his game from all possible angles. It's very rare to see him get out in the same way twice, because he seems to study his weaknesses with such rigour that he soon overcomes them.

I'm sure that's why he likes fielding at gully. From there you can get a good view of the batting and the degree of bounce of the pitch. I'm sure he'd be happy enough there with a notebook writing his thoughts down.

Nice post

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Nice post

I'll elaborate then.

I did eighteen years of school, including five years of psychology at tertiary level. One thing I observed was that the ability to learn is primarily a matter of mental attitude, not intelligence. In particular, it's a combination of two things: an interest in the subject matter and the ability to deliberately and willfully put oneself in a mind state that is receptive to learning. The difficulty for men is that this state is essentially a feminine state to be in, because it requires passivity.

Kane doesn't swagger around like Bracewell or Santner, like some **** who knows everything already. He stands there all day in gully in a state of extreme receptivity - if you look at him, look at his body language, look at how he doesn't tire or get bored over the course of several hours at the same task - he looks the same as the best students I saw in my time as a student.

He stands there at gully absorbing EVERYTHING. He's not just waiting for a catch; he's watching how all the batsmen react to various deliveries, he's counting what shots are high-percentage to different bowlers or fields or pitch conditions, he's watching which deliveries are dangerous, and he's studying which shot is the most high-percentage shot to play to each kind of ball.
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Then he assimilates all of this information into his mental picture of how to be a complete batsman. So like a sculptor, he continually makes refinements to his masterpiece.

With that sort of interest and attitude KW would likely have become a master at whatever he happened to do in his life. Fortunately for us here it was batting.

This is why I predict that he will not only maintain this level of form but will actually get even better and become an even more complete batsman.

 

[Athlai]

did you just throw in primary and highschool years to get that number up to 18? You could've just said you studied psychology.

 

[Jono]

Yeah but they can go hand in hand. Look at this test - No Kane, no win.

242* vs SL last year

I know we've won games where he hasn't got runs, and lost games where he has. But jeez, after years of lollapses... Having someone like that in our team is immense.

Yeah I get that. I guess my point was you'd always rather win, and you don't want a similar Indian fan vibe to the 90s where you didn't mind losing so long as Sachin/Kane got runs, but you should nevertheless just be happy to have produced such a gun, even if you get toasted by Aus. Doesn't mean you think its fine to lose etc., but talents like him are hard to find. He's not just another good batsman coming through the ranks - he's got all the makings of a future ATG.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

did you just throw in primary and highschool years to get that number up to 18? You could've just said you studied psychology.

I studied a lot of psychology in high school. I read Allan Pease's 'Body Language' when I was 13 and then Desmond Morris's 'Manwatching' a few years later. Completely changed the way I understood the world.

Even at high school you could walk into a new class and know from the first minute who the good students were going to be if you understood body language.