I think some of you have missed my point in so much as that we have had these 'disturbances' at 3 ODI's in a row B4 some decisive action was taken!!!! Crowd disturbances piss me off at the best of times in any sport, but the lack of any prompt & decisive response from the 'powers that be' at local / national / international levels makes things worse - this has taken too long and so far there is no apparent deterrent / repercussions for any such future 'incidents'!!!!!
The comments regarding cancelled tours & bans re terrorism & politics was to highlight that such action has been taken in the past because of 'non cricketing issues' - a precedent has been set re action available to be taken that can then be applied to 'cricketing issues'!!!!
I have also seen a report that over 1000 people have been killed in this region of India this year thru local conflict - surely this should also be taken into account when faced with these 'disturbances'????
I am aware that these 'incidents' occur elsewhere in the game, but I am not aware of it having occured at consecutive matches in the same country. I used that example as it was in the same country as the current 'incidents', and to illustrate that this has been going on for decades without a definative system of proposed penalties having been put in place by either the national or international governing bodies!!! FYI the 'incident' I was referring to involved a spectator riot where the stadium was burnt down during a test match!!!!
Sorry to disappoint but the response re possible Indian bans does not hold water. The game may be akin to a religion in India and may have the largest population following the game, but India are not the current WC holders, leading the Test Championship ladder, nor are they currently dominating the game in either form!!!!
From a strictly 'on the field' point of view there would be a far greater impact if Australia were banned. Yes the competition would not be so one sided in most instances, but the game as a whole would suffer as the Australians have taken the game to another level - it is not their fault that currently the rest of the world has yet to catch up.
The precedent has already been set regarding the banning of teams with SA's exclusion on 'non-cricketing' issues re internal politics!!!!
Again the arguement re consideration for teams and players does not hold up if the situation is deemed serious enough. What consideration was given to the team, the local game, and the supporters in the SA decision??? - ultimately consideration for them was not greater than the decision to take some affirmative action and to make a statement!!!!
The idea of doing pat downs etc on everyone b4 every match is too time consuming, and people will eventually stop going to 'live' matches - the 'cure' causing more regular disruption than the 'cause'?????. Furthermore increased security & pat downs may be a form of prevention, but they are not a deterrant so far as possible / potential repercussions go!!!!
Other sporting codes have taken action banning teams regarding hooliganism as I have indicated in an earlier post. Admittedly this was as the result of deaths and repeat incidents of violence, but I would hate cricket to have to get to this stage b4 any definative action is taken as prevention is always better than cure!!!
Please do not get me wrong - I would prefer not to have any team banned, but I think that any nation must realise that this could be the ultimate penalty for failure to address such issues in their own back yard!!!!
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The comments regarding cancelled tours & bans re terrorism & politics was to highlight that such action has been taken in the past because of 'non cricketing issues' - a precedent has been set re action available to be taken that can then be applied to 'cricketing issues'!!!!
I have also seen a report that over 1000 people have been killed in this region of India this year thru local conflict - surely this should also be taken into account when faced with these 'disturbances'????
I am aware that these 'incidents' occur elsewhere in the game, but I am not aware of it having occured at consecutive matches in the same country. I used that example as it was in the same country as the current 'incidents', and to illustrate that this has been going on for decades without a definative system of proposed penalties having been put in place by either the national or international governing bodies!!! FYI the 'incident' I was referring to involved a spectator riot where the stadium was burnt down during a test match!!!!
Sorry to disappoint but the response re possible Indian bans does not hold water. The game may be akin to a religion in India and may have the largest population following the game, but India are not the current WC holders, leading the Test Championship ladder, nor are they currently dominating the game in either form!!!!
From a strictly 'on the field' point of view there would be a far greater impact if Australia were banned. Yes the competition would not be so one sided in most instances, but the game as a whole would suffer as the Australians have taken the game to another level - it is not their fault that currently the rest of the world has yet to catch up.
The precedent has already been set regarding the banning of teams with SA's exclusion on 'non-cricketing' issues re internal politics!!!!
Again the arguement re consideration for teams and players does not hold up if the situation is deemed serious enough. What consideration was given to the team, the local game, and the supporters in the SA decision??? - ultimately consideration for them was not greater than the decision to take some affirmative action and to make a statement!!!!
The idea of doing pat downs etc on everyone b4 every match is too time consuming, and people will eventually stop going to 'live' matches - the 'cure' causing more regular disruption than the 'cause'?????. Furthermore increased security & pat downs may be a form of prevention, but they are not a deterrant so far as possible / potential repercussions go!!!!
Other sporting codes have taken action banning teams regarding hooliganism as I have indicated in an earlier post. Admittedly this was as the result of deaths and repeat incidents of violence, but I would hate cricket to have to get to this stage b4 any definative action is taken as prevention is always better than cure!!!
Please do not get me wrong - I would prefer not to have any team banned, but I think that any nation must realise that this could be the ultimate penalty for failure to address such issues in their own back yard!!!!
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