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The Greats

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SJS said:
Add a wicket keeper, get Sobers to open (he has opened in a test I think) and what a great side.

  1. Hobbs
  2. Sobers
  3. Bradman
  4. Richards
  5. Tendulkar
  6. Lara
  7. Imran
    [*]Wicket Keeper
  8. Marshall
  9. Warne
  10. MacGrath/Murali

WOW !!
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Unfortunately, we'll never have a w/k because the best is not great 8-)

So feel free to select all the bowlers you like, but nothing will be caught behind the stumps and the tail starts at 6. 8-)
 
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GladiatrsInBlue

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SJS said:
Add a wicket keeper, get Sobers to open (he has opened in a test I think) and what a great side.

  1. Hobbs
  2. Sobers
  3. Bradman
  4. Richards
  5. Tendulkar
  6. Lara
  7. Imran
    [*]Wicket Keeper
  8. Marshall
  9. Warne
  10. MacGrath/Murali

WOW !!
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I would rather have a specialist opener for such a great team, why make Sobers a make shift opener?

The WK should either be Gill or Dujon.

Gavaskar/WG Grace
Hobbs
Bradman
Richards
Sobers
Tendulkar
Imran
Dujon
Marshall
Warne
McGrath
 
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ohtani's jacket

State Vice-Captain
Lara's 400* - no
Ganguly (people have nominated him based on his one day batting ability) - no
Trueman - no
Jones' 200 - no
Neil Harvey -no
Frank Worrell - yes
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Once more on the Sobers and Kallis thing

Sobers played 19 tests against Australia. He averaged 43 with the bat and 40 with the ball.
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Also, Sobers played 12 tests v New Zealand, and was hopeless. 24 with the bat and 36 with the ball.

He was amazing against England and India, and amazing with the bat but horrible with ball (averaging 113 over 8 tests) against Pakistan.
 
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Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
thierry henry said:
Once more on the Sobers and Kallis thing

Sobers played 19 tests against Australia. He averaged 43 with the bat and 40 with the ball.
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Depends on the era as to how one judges performances.
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
social said:
Depends on the era as to how one judges performances.
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Please explain.

I can understand if you were to say that the pitches were better/worse back then. But of course, Sobers is an all-rounder. So if you were to say the pitches were better for batting, it would make his batting slightly less impressive but his bowling more so. If you were to say the pitches were better for bowling, it would make his batting even more amazing, but his bowling plainly poor.

Also, considering he could bowl spin and pace, he could tailor his bowling to conditions. Yet he still only averaged 34.
 
Pedro Delgado

Pedro Delgado

International Debutant
Lara's 400* - Yes
Ganguly - No
Trueman - Yes
Jones' 200 - Yes
Neil Harvey - Yes
Frank Worrell - Yes

I'll back:
G. A. Headley
E. D. C. Weekes
C. E. L. Ambrose
M. A. Holding

as candidates for the title.
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
GladiatrsInBlue said:
I would rather have a specialist opener for such a great team, why make Sobers a make shift opener?

The WK should either be Gill or Dujon.

Gavaskar/WG Grace
Hobbs
Bradman
Richards
Sobers
Tendulkar
Imran
Dujon
Marshall
Warne
McGrath
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You didnt get it buddy.

I did not nominate a great XI !! I just took the 11 players that have been nominated here as greats and made a team from the GIVEN XI !!
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Ganguly is one of 4 players with over 10,000 ODI runs and he has the second highest average of the 4. If he isn't a great ODI batsman than who is (or are people simply not prepared to entertain the notion of a "great" ODI batsman?)
 
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Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
thierry henry said:
Ganguly is one of 4 players with over 10,000 ODI runs and he has the second highest average of the 4. If he isn't a great ODI batsman than who is (or are people simply not prepared to entertain the notion of a "great" ODI batsman?)
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Nah people just don't like him, that's why most are voting against him I reckon. I voted against him because even though I think he's a great ODI batsman, I reckon one has to be like Michael Bevan to be solely nominated in the limited overs game. Don't get me wrong, Ganguly cops too much in terms of how good he is as a batsman on this board (not his attitude and arrogance). He was a champion ODI batsman. I just don't feel he's a Bevan, Richards, Tendulkar when it comes to the limited overs game. That being said, I understnad where you are coming from.

But seriously, if Gilly, Steve Waugh, Akram and Hadlee aren't going to be considered great, you reckon Ganguly has much of a chance? :p
 
Jamee999

Jamee999

Hall of Fame Member
SJS said:
You didnt get it buddy.

I did not nominate a great XI !! I just took the 11 players that have been nominated here as greats and made a team from the GIVEN XI !!
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Maybe Sachin could open? He does in ODIs.
 
FaaipDeOiad

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
I'll nominate a few more which I haven't seen mentioned. I'm sure given the trend that they will be rejected, but one has to try, and they are all definately great. If they've already been nominated, I'll second/third them.

Ian Botham
Greg Chappell
Ray Lindwall
Alan Davidson
Michael Bevan (ODIs)
Curtley Ambrose
Rahul Dravid
Sunil Gavaskar
Allan Border
Walter Hammond
Stan McCabe
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
From players that Ive seen from 1990 onwards, the following I would classify as 'great':

Warne; Lara; Akram; McGrath; Ambrose; Tendulkar.
 
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jamesicus

School Boy/Girl Captain
"I will base my nominations on those players who, in my eyes and experience, have achieved greatness by elevating and enhancing the game in extraordinary ways -- not necessarily just on-field accomplishments -- although I do include some players (or collection of players) strictly because of the sheer enormity and excellence of their career performance."

My list to date:

D. G. Bradman
J. B. Hobbs
L.N. Constantine
G. A. Headley
E. D. C. Weekes
G. S. Sobers
B. C. Lara.
C. E. L. Ambrose
M. A. Holding
M. D. Marshall
F. M. M. Worrell
C. L. Walcott
I. V. A. Richards

More of my English nominations:

W. G. Grace -- the formidable doctor was mainly responsible for elevating cricket from a village green and local club game to one of national and international prominence.

Wally Hammond -- the backbone of English county and test cricket batting during the 1930s, he was a great stroke maker and producer of runs -- and a fine captain.

L. E. G. Ames -- England's premier wicket keeper throughout the 1930s and a superb batsman -- the only wicket keeper to score 100 first class centuries -- he was a leading figure in WW2 cricket in England where, as RAF Squadron Leader Ames, he organized and participated in hundreds of armed forces charity cricket matches.

Sydney F. Barnes -- regarded by many as one of the best bowlers of all time, his test bowling statistics are phenomenal -- he captured all ten wickets in first class matches more times than any other bowler -- on 7 occasions.

.... more English nominees to come later -- I am a little woozy from dental surgery today.

My updated list of nominees:

D. G. Bradman
J. B. Hobbs
L.N. Constantine
G. A. Headley
E. D. C. Weekes
G. S. Sobers
B. C. Lara.
C. E. L. Ambrose
M. A. Holding
M. D. Marshall
F. M. M. Worrell
C. L. Walcott
I. V. A. Richards
W. G. Grace
W. R. Hammond
L. E. G. Ames
S. F. Barnes
 
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