The greater test series performance : Bradman vs SA(1931) vs Barnes vs SA(1913)

[Coronis]

Tennis elbow

Pretty much everyone in India knew about this term back then thanks to Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar

Still waiting for a good Indian singles tennis player.

 

[Johan]

Wanna hear something insane?

Sydney Barnes got more 5fers and 10fers in those 4 games in South Africa than Joel Garner did in his entire career.

 

[Coronis]

Wanna hear something insane?

Sydney Barnes got more 5fers and 10fers in those 4 games in South Africa than Joel Garner did in his entire career.

Interestingly, Garner has by far the best 5’fer rate in FC outside of tests of Windies pacers. And the best 10’fer rate

 

[Johan]

Interestingly, Garner has by far the best 5’fer rate in FC outside of tests of Windies pacers. And the best 10’fer rate

I'm pretty confident it's just opening bowling/not opening bowling, bet Garner's 5fer rate while opening the bowling is comparable to other Windies pacers bar Marshall

 

[Coronis]

I'm pretty confident it's just opening bowling/not opening bowling, bet Garner's 5fer rate while opening the bowling is comparable to other Windies pacers bar Marshall

Yeah it is. But still, interesting nonetheless. Significantly better than Marshall’s too. Really feels like he wasted a lot of years by not opening. Well not wasted but you get the drift.

 

[Coronis]

Windies opening bowlers

 

[Sliferxxxx]

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Windies opening bowlers

Makes me sad to see what we have now trying to pass for pace bowlers. Seales isn't too bad though...

 

[The Sean]

My first reaction was incredulity at the fact that Ambrose had taken the new ball in all but three of his Tests.

Until on second look I realised that Roberts had actually taken the new ball in *all* of them.

 

[Coronis]

My first reaction was incredulity at the fact that Ambrose had taken the new ball in all but three of his Tests.

Until on second look I realised that Roberts had actually taken the new ball in *all* of them.

Not just all his matches, but every innings he bowled.

The only bowler I could find with more matches and innings to do that was Garth McKenzie (60 matches 113 innings). Kapil leads with opening in all 131 matches, although he didn’t open in two of his innings.

 

[Migara]

Three months and still haven't decided between Hutton and Viv

Viv.

Played lot of variety to average the same. That is if we assume that there had been no improvement of general quality of test cricket in last 100 years or so.

 

[Coronis]

Viv.

Played lot of variety to average the same. That is if we assume that there had been no improvement of general quality of test cricket in last 100 years or so.

You mean the 20 years between them. And trust me, they did not average the same.

 

[Thala_0710]

iirc tennis elbow isn’t chronic and shouldn’t persist after treatment and rest but I could be mistaken

Yeah it depends on a a case to case basis. The permanent damage was Tendulkar couldn't attack and play some of his shots which he did previously. Thus he had to remodel his entire technique, which lead to his poor form in 2005-07 (3 year span). He was back to his best from 2008 onwards and had a second great peak from 2008-2011.

 

[Johan]

Viv.

Played lot of variety to average the same. That is if we assume that there had been no improvement of general quality of test cricket in last 100 years or so.

Hutton averages 6 points higher while opening and dominated the hardest era of the game. There's also no way you can make an era argument with Hutton and Viv, that would be like assuming Root and Williamson are above Viv for nothing but debuting later.

the gap between current lads and Viv is larger in timeframe than Viv and Hutton anyway.