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The Football ATG General Arguing/Discussing Thread

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howitzer

State Captain
Best XI since about the mid to late 90s

Buffon
Maldini
Nesta
Cannavaro
Lahm
Keane
Xavi
Zidane
Messi
Ronaldo
Ronaldo

DM the trickiest choice there. I could have picked any of about half a dozen players there and it wouldn't have felt wrong.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
howitzer said:
Best XI since about the mid to late 90s

Buffon
Maldini
Nesta
Cannavaro
Lahm
Keane
Xavi
Zidane
Messi
Ronaldo
Ronaldo

DM the trickiest choice there. I could have picked any of about half a dozen players there and it wouldn't have felt wrong.
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I would had gone with anyone DM among Busquets, Keane, Viera and Seedorf; but as a CB; surely Ramos>Cannavaro?
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Cannavaro is actually quite overrated generally, imo. Whereas Nesta, despite generally being rated pretty highly by nearly everyone, is actually still quite underrated for me personally.
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Feels like the France turn of the Century side has been completely overlooked here bar Zidane. Desailly, Thuram, Lizarazu and Henry surely have to be in the discussions.

Was Lahm better than his Bayern predecessor?
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Molehill said:
Feels like the France turn of the Century side has been completely overlooked here bar Zidane. Desailly, Thuram, Lizarazu and Henry surely have to be in the discussions.

Was Lahm better than his Bayern predecessor?
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Thuram was defensively more stern and have the physical advantage, but imo, Lahm was technically superior, more Swift at creating attacks and was an underrated genius. Anyways, not much between them; and also Cafu. Henry isn't really in the conversation when you have Messi, and a pair of Ronaldo's; 3 Top 10 footballers of all time; and no way Lizarazu have a claim ahead of Maldini. Desailly is the great shout alongside Thuram and Viera; but just falls short to Ramos and Nesta.

My squad would be:
Buffon
Neuer
Cassilas
Lahm
Cafu
Maldini
Carlos
Ramos
Nesta
Desailly
Puyol
Busquets
Keane
Xavi
Pirlo
Zidane
Iniesta
Figo
CR7
Neymar
Messi
Ronaldo Nazario
Lewandowski
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
capt_Luffy said:
Massively disagree. Pre injury R9 is close to Pele imo.
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Still earnt me a fortune as the top goalscorer in 2002.

Slightly hard to equate as somewhat different players, but as a standalone goalscorer, Ronaldo's record is better (even if goals in Spain are somewhat easier to come by).
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Molehill said:
Still earnt me a fortune as the top goalscorer in 2002.

Slightly hard to equate as somewhat different players, but as a standalone goalscorer, Ronaldo's record is better (even if goals in Spain are somewhat easier to come by).
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If goals in Spain are easier, then they're easily tougher in Italy. Pre injury R9 was a beast.
It still cracks me up that Henry lost the 2002 Ballon D'Or to Michael Owen
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Molehill said:
Still earnt me a fortune as the top goalscorer in 2002.

Slightly hard to equate as somewhat different players, but as a standalone goalscorer, Ronaldo's record is better (even if goals in Spain are somewhat easier to come by).
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He actually has fewer (club) career goals than Henry, just ftr.
 
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Tom Flint

International Regular
A premier league xi who have never won the pl?
Not including current players.
Given
Harte
Hyppia
Desailly
Petrescu
Bale
Gerrard
Alonso
Ginola
Le tissier
Ferdinand

Zola and Klinsmann unlucky to miss out
 
H

howitzer

State Captain
Tom Flint said:
A premier league xi who have never won the pl?
Not including current players.
Given
Harte
Hyppia
Desailly
Petrescu
Bale
Gerrard
Alonso
Ginola
Le tissier
Ferdinand

Zola and Klinsmann unlucky to miss out
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Would personally have Zola above Ferdinand. Tempted by the idea of Radebe above Hyppia too.

Edit: Paul McGrath perhaps another option for that CB role. His peak wasn't during the PL era but he was still some player in the 90's.
 
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Tom Flint

International Regular
Zola and le tiss was 50/50 for me.
Suarez still playing?
If torres didn't win the pl at Chelsea then yep I'd definitely have him over Ferdinand.
 
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