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The England Thread
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steds
Hall of Fame Member
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PY
International Coach
Where to from here you've got to ask?
I'll bet a lot of money that people won't want to sack Ashton because he wasn't given enough time before the WC but I don't think he made us any better in the time that he was given. We've got to slice and dice this entire setup I think and actually get someone in who will have the nads to make hard decisions.
If that is a foreigner then so be it. And for goodness sake, don't even suggest going back to Sir Clive.....
I'll bet a lot of money that people won't want to sack Ashton because he wasn't given enough time before the WC but I don't think he made us any better in the time that he was given. We've got to slice and dice this entire setup I think and actually get someone in who will have the nads to make hard decisions.
If that is a foreigner then so be it. And for goodness sake, don't even suggest going back to Sir Clive.....
vogue
International Vice-Captain
..According to the BBC....Jamie Noon has been ruled out of the remainder of the World Cup with a knee ligament injury...but there is still hope that Jason Robinson will play some further part in the tournament...Jonny Wilkinson and Olly Barkley should be fit for Saturdays game against Samoa...
steds
Hall of Fame Member
Flood replaces Noon.
Bit of an odd replacement isn't it? Thought Flood was a stand off? For the best anyway. Noon is dire.
Bit of an odd replacement isn't it? Thought Flood was a stand off? For the best anyway. Noon is dire.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Rectifying an earlier error for mine. As I whinged previously 3 outside centres in a 30 man squad was well OTT. Flood can play inside centre too tho anyway, does it for Newcastle on the rare occasions Jonny's fit.
If nothing else he's young & might at least learn from the experience of playing in on the biggest stage, unlike Catt & Farrell.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
"We all hate England" - John O'Neill
Today's Unreconstructed Ocker Blow-Hard Award goes to the ARU's president John O'Neill. From Planet Rugby. "It doesn't matter whether it's cricket, rugby union, rugby league - we all hate England"
Feeling the love John, mate.
Seriously tho, one quarter-way passable performance & he's worried enough to mouth off? Interesting.
Today's Unreconstructed Ocker Blow-Hard Award goes to the ARU's president John O'Neill. From Planet Rugby. "It doesn't matter whether it's cricket, rugby union, rugby league - we all hate England"
Feeling the love John, mate.
Seriously tho, one quarter-way passable performance & he's worried enough to mouth off? Interesting.
steds
Hall of Fame Member
Interesting that he should mention league when Australia have played "England" at league a whole 3 times in the last 30 years. Got to hold a pretty decent grudge for that.
Anyway, back on topic: worst ****.
Anyway, back on topic: worst ****.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
While I don't agree with O'Neill's sentiments, a whole heap of middle-aged Kiwi's do. "Hate those whinging Pom's" is usually uttered several times a day when talking about England's sporting prospects.
Also, Johnny has the right to complain. I don't see people lynching Carter even though he's been whinging more about the balls.
Also, Johnny has the right to complain. I don't see people lynching Carter even though he's been whinging more about the balls.
ohtani's jacket
State Vice-Captain
The match ball situation is crazy, They should bitch until the IRB do something about it.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Lewsey broken; Abendanon called up.
From the Beeb. Nice touch to call up one of our tame yarpies I feel. Rotten luck for Lewsey tho, just as he was playing himself into a bit of form.
From the Beeb. Nice touch to call up one of our tame yarpies I feel. Rotten luck for Lewsey tho, just as he was playing himself into a bit of form.
cover drive man
International Captain
Unlucky England although the better team won. I'm just happy I made this thread.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Dallaglio: Ashton turned England into pub team
From the BBC. Scathing stuff it is too.
Dallaglio: "Head coach of the England team demands management skills that Brian does not have. We had a head coach who wanted one thing, other coaches who wanted other things. The players hadn't a clue what was going on."
"Somehow we'd managed to turn our World Cup campaign into a Monty Python sketch - called The Life of Brian"
Christ knows what he'd have said if we hadn't made the final. Small word of caution for Big Lol or any players who underplay Ashton's role in our campaign: I remember Gareth Thomas saying something very similar about Mike Ruddock's part in their 2005 Grand Slam & look what's happened to the Welsh since.
From the BBC. Scathing stuff it is too.
Dallaglio: "Head coach of the England team demands management skills that Brian does not have. We had a head coach who wanted one thing, other coaches who wanted other things. The players hadn't a clue what was going on."
"Somehow we'd managed to turn our World Cup campaign into a Monty Python sketch - called The Life of Brian"
Christ knows what he'd have said if we hadn't made the final. Small word of caution for Big Lol or any players who underplay Ashton's role in our campaign: I remember Gareth Thomas saying something very similar about Mike Ruddock's part in their 2005 Grand Slam & look what's happened to the Welsh since.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
We didn't get where we did because of Ashton IMO. Basically after the 36-0 v SA, the players really had a think about how they were playing and did it themselves.
ohtani's jacket
State Vice-Captain
Interesting comments from Dallaglio. Quite a few All Blacks are biting their tongues about Henry in case he gets reappointed.
PY
International Coach
Dean Richards has been pretty scathing back to those elder statesmen who've voiced their opinions.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7066698.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7066698.stm