thierry henry
International Coach
The funniest thing is, if that ridiculous comment about Sangakkara wasn't made to annoy me, it means you actually believed it 
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The CW50 - No.20-11
- Thread starter The Sean
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thierry henry
International Coach
and just ftr, I didn't quote any posts from you in this thread until after your comments about Sangakkara.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Nah, the funniest thing is the fact you think that I think you're worth annoying.The funniest thing is, if that ridiculous comment about Sangakkara wasn't made to annoy me, it means you actually believed it
thierry henry
International Coach
Christ. If your whole forum persona isn't a pisstake then...wow.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
and just further ftr, I never said you did. You quoted two of my posts in the All-rounder thread - both of which I ignored. Hardly "following you around".
thierry henry
International Coach
Hmmm. Was it the "careers include good stuff and bad stuff" bit that blew your mind?
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
It didn't blow my mind, it was just irrelevant. The point at issue was whether Botham could be considered an all time great if he'd retired in 1988 as opposed to 1992. In my opinion his great years qualify him as a great irrespective of him going past his sell by date.
Your post added nothing to that so I ignored it.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Between 3 and 10 I could change them around in whatever order to be honest and not be too bothered. Coulda swapped his position with Garry Sobers and would have had the top 4 all AustralianYou're slipping, Ikki. I believe I had Miller higher up than you do
Can't believe Murali, Miller ,Gilchrist, McGrath didn't make the top 10.
...then would have had people giving me crap about that. Can't win! 
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thierry henry
International Coach
iirc you rated Botham above Imran. I agree with everything you said above but am still bemused by you rating Botham higher, given Imran also had a Bothamesque ridiculously good sustained peak, but also had longevity without any associated epic decline.
But tbh I was foolish to bother and am not really interested in discussing Botham v Imran or anything else with you anyway.
thierry henry
International Coach
I didn't do it. tbh didn't even see this until yesterday.
Would've had them both ridiculously high fo sho.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Okay, well just to satisfy your disinterest. I rate Ian Botham as the most gifted all around cricketer in history. There was no particular criteria set for voting so I rated him on natural ability and achievement rather than just worry about the record books. If you want to set the criteria on achievement and making the most of more limited ability (with the bat in case of Botham v Imran) then obviously Imran leaves Botham standing. And I wouldn't have needed Statsguru to tell me that either.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
I had 8 of the 10. Missed DKL (accidentally, although looking at my 25 now still not sure who'd miss out; Waqar was #25 and it's a toss up between the two IMHO) & Murali (very deliberately, 'cos, well, you know).
FTR I rated Hammond #4, Barnes #5, Miller #10, Ambrose #12, Lara #15, McGrath #16, Gilchrist #17 & Botham #20.
Surprised Wally & SF have missed out on a top ten spot. I always rate Wally very highly as a cricketing package because his medium pace was never less than useful and he was reputedly a superb fielder too.
It looks like only one of my twenty five will miss out and that's Everton Weekes who I had as high as #13.
FTR I rated Hammond #4, Barnes #5, Miller #10, Ambrose #12, Lara #15, McGrath #16, Gilchrist #17 & Botham #20.
Surprised Wally & SF have missed out on a top ten spot. I always rate Wally very highly as a cricketing package because his medium pace was never less than useful and he was reputedly a superb fielder too.
It looks like only one of my twenty five will miss out and that's Everton Weekes who I had as high as #13.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
I was surprised by how many people didn't vote for Wally at all - more than a third of our voters didn't include him anywhere in their 25.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Hey Sean, out of the 40 people who selected, how many of us selected pretty much only cricketers from the last couple of decades?
For instance I know Ginger Furball hasn't picked a 'traditional' list which means that a lot of the greats are not going to get 100%.
Basically what I'm asking is, what's the highest percentage anyone on our list could get, because there are players who are only in the 70 per cents who I can't see how really anyone could not pick them!
For instance I know Ginger Furball hasn't picked a 'traditional' list which means that a lot of the greats are not going to get 100%.
Basically what I'm asking is, what's the highest percentage anyone on our list could get, because there are players who are only in the 70 per cents who I can't see how really anyone could not pick them!
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
There were a couple who kept it predominantly to players they'd seen or who meant a lot to them personally. 15 of the guys on our list got more than 70% - of those 15, twelve got more than 80%, five got more than 90%...and one player was on everyone's list.
Blakus
State Vice-Captain
Have been reading through all these threads. Great stuff Sean
Looking through whose been named already I've also come to the conclusion that my top 20 all made the top 25. Fred Trueman(21), Graeme Pollock(22) and Sunil Gavaskar(23) just missed out.
Also massively disappointed and surprised that Frank Worrell and Alan Knott missed out on the top 50 list completely. Would you be able to tell me how many people other than me voted for them?
Looking through whose been named already I've also come to the conclusion that my top 20 all made the top 25. Fred Trueman(21), Graeme Pollock(22) and Sunil Gavaskar(23) just missed out.
Also massively disappointed and surprised that Frank Worrell and Alan Knott missed out on the top 50 list completely. Would you be able to tell me how many people other than me voted for them?